John - glad youre liking the combo. tbh the bass was fine on the whole, I was just being greedy by wanting essentially a ''super R100'' and thought id find that in the LS50. But it's a totally different sound signiture. They were on stands, a couple of feet from back wall. i do sit with back to wall though which doesnt help. What source are you using?
Penguin - nah it's not the amp's fault. I am very impressed with the arcam, it's such a solid allrounder with detail and superb control. All i meant is that the ls50 is dialed to be particularly forward and provocative in the very upper mids and the lower treble. That makes them brilliant for accoustic guitar, string instruments and female vocals, which thrive on such stages of the frequency range. It also makes them more 'exciting'. But any music more poppy or drums/cymbals based and they sound aggressive. Again, this is purely my opinion, many people love them, even on the end of forward sounding amps like audiolab! Loved the R100's and stuck with sevenoaks credit note (assuming i can return them) so limited with what brands are available so will prob just go for them again.
CSQ - certainly. I just think (as other people have touched on previously) that the LS50's are particularly unforving and show recordings for what they are. I realise now that i far prefer more forgiving speakers. It's intereesting trying out my most brutal recordings to see how they fare. Pendulum and flaming lips are probably the worst for brightness and they are shockingly bad on the LS50's, yet with the R100's I quite happily sat through them. Conversely however, put a decent, delicate recording like Scott Matthews or Tracey Chapman on and they still sound great.
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I am using MacBook Air (ALAC) and Micromega MyDac.
WHF review says that this DAC has attacking sound, maybe this combination of forward DAC and smooth R100 and A19 is working well together.... but I just love the result. ;-)
Super R100 maybe you can find in R300, but they are very very big, you have to have a lot of space around them and very strong stands, I heard them shortly in relaively small demo room and whole room was vibrating when bass kicked in...
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Yeah you maybe right there about the more attacking source.
Nah R300's both too expensive and way too big for the small bedroom im soon to moving into.
Update: Got the R100's back! Even got a refund of the extra £200 too, as they said it would be more hassle to give a credit note. Very chuffed.
The little black puppies are re-installed and sounding great. As previously mentioned, so much more laid back and 'recessed', yet easily exciting enough when required to party. Yet treble remains beautifully refined and delicate. Just really nice and easy to listen to.
I've been following with interest, and am delighted you've got the sound you want. This is exactly why there are different products around, and it is silly to be too dogmatic about what is 'better'.
Kudos to Sevenoaks for being very fair to you too.
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Glad to see you've managed to get it all sorted and you got your little black puppies back
It just goes to show that no matter how much a product gets rave reviews they are not going to be to everyones taste for me i just love my LS50s they're totally amazing the highs are never to screechy just pure delight and the lows go low enough i also think that room acoustics play a big part in how a hifi system can sound.
At least you can sit back and enjoy your music
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Credit to your dealer, acted as proper hi-fi shop. I am sure you are going to shop with them again.
Also I am glad that finally you found peace (at least for now) in your adventures hi-fi journey. Sometimes progress is not a one direction move, but the whole process of reaching destination where you want to be.
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Thanks all. Hard to believe how stressful and long that road is, never expected it. Problem is, once you've heard your first half decent setup
, it opens the flood gates and suddenly pickiness, angst and over analysing kick in. Or it has for me at least.
Oddly enough, the r100s sound a bit brighter than i remember! Hopefully that's just a side effect of using my cheap (and therefore relatively muffled) earbud headphones when commuting last couple of days.
Goat,put some of your fave music on,sit back and find all the + points in your system,lets face it,once you know what your listening for(and to a certain degree i'm glad i don't )it must be all too easy to pick faults,getting yourself all frustrated and discontent.
I love my lil puppies,but if i could physicaly accomadate them,and more importantly position them correctly, i would opt for a bigger unit...just becouse in my eyes it would give a bigger sound.Not a better sound tho,the R100's are stunning,just a different sound.
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