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[...] have any of you considered that there really are supposedly sane people that still believe in magic and others that believe that higher powers have had a hand in something that science has proven otherwise?
Everyone knows that there are sane people who believe crazy things. It's a truism. But earlier you were talking about intelligence, now you're talking about sanity. These are two quite different (albeit partially overlapping) entities.
What classical music are you listening to?
. . . but have any of you considered that there really are supposedly sane people that still believe in magic and others that believe that higher powers have had a hand in something that science has proven otherwise?
Nope. Never have.
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Steve, it's your agreeing with the whole "the dumb don't know any better, it's magic to them" thing. I suspect you had zero intention of doing so, but it seemed you were agreeing with Overdose's patronising summation of the situation.
Yes I can see how it may have come across that way and it was unintentional.
I certainly don't think that people see something as being magic just because they don't understand how it works. Few people understand how a microwave oven works (for example) but no one ever says that they think it's some sort of mystical sorcery.
But this does bring us back to the question I asked earlier:
"I'm not really interested in the 'snake oil' type of manufacturers that you speak of. They've been discussed many times before and it's obvious that they do what they do for monetary gain.
What interests me more are the people who are so quick to believe their bogus claims when science tells us that the claims must be fake. Why is this? "
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Not that I'm commenting on whether I believe burning in cables makes a difference to the sound or not, but I think you've not grasped what people are after when they do things like burning in cables.
They are after an alteration in the way the equipment behaves from new by use. It is seemingly always for the better, 'burn in' never appears to be to the detriment of the equipment, so to use the analogies of the previous poster why would you risk using any other equipment that had not been properly optimised by 'burn in' of any wiring involved?
I'd expect any equipment of that importance (and the components in that equipment) to have been fully tested for hundreds of hours prior to be putting into proper use and therefore "burnt in". If you want to call it that.
But they don't. They are built on a production line and then punted out to the customers.
Are you absolutely sure about this whole "aircraft just use any old wire" thing...?
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We only have a finite intelligence as a race and the only way to push the boundaries is to advance technology by using science to push beyond our own human abilities and once beyond our level of understanding and compreshension, anything can be deemed magic or by design of a higher power.
Granted there are some bright people around, but equally, there are many that simply have to accept what they are told about the way stuff works, as to them it may as well be magic because they simply do not have tha capacity to understand the technology in front of them.
This post is unbelievable. Oozing superiority and condescension.... I wonder how much of the technology you would understand if I just plonked you down in the flight deck?? I'm going to now set my hair on fire.
Quite a bit probably.
Disappointing reply. .... but not a surprising one.
A man is driving past a mental hospital when his back passenger wheel flies off, and overtakes him. He pulls over and manages to find the wheel, but all four bolts are missing and presumed lost. As he is sits on the side of the road pondering what to do next, he hears voice above him saying "What's the problem?"
He looks up and sees an old gentleman, leaning on his elbows and looking in an interested way, over the hospital wall. He replies "My wheel came off and since the bolts are all lost, I can't attach it."
To this, the old gent quietly advises "Take one bolt from each of the other wheels and use them to put on the wheel."
"Blimey" says the driver, "That's brilliant. With thinking like that, why are you in that mental institution?"
"I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid," came the reply.
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Yes, I'm sure you're right. Planes are just run off the production line in Dagenham, and then immediately passengers are put on them and off they go, with fingers crossed there's no issues.
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The English audiophile does not really understand music, but they absolutely love the noise it makes. Sir Thomas Beecham.
I didn't know that word had been invented that long ago but I would laugh if he had said that. I find the term audiophile a little creepy, personally. A great many quotes sound self-evident, are highly amusing but mere opinion.
Your suspicions about the word audiophile in this context are justified. The Oxford Dictionary of Modern Quotations gives: "The English may not like music, but they absolutely love the noise it makes." I think this was a response to Oscar Schmitz's infamous description of England as "the land without music" ("das Land ohne Musik").
EDIT it's also hard to believe that someone as fastidious as Beecham would have got his grammar wrong: "the English audiophile ... they". !!!
I could have swore he said audiophile, after all he was speaking at the Heathrow Hi-fi show in 1973.
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Which would have been remarkable in itself, given that he died in 1961.
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I didn't say aircraft use 'any old wire' and all kinds of wire have a specification irrespective of use, but the existence of a specification does not mean that the wire is 'burnt in'. A product is made to specification and once complete, usually tested and then off to be sold. There is no extended burn in for wiring for any product that I know of and why would there be?
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Who's talking about aircraft? In any case, I'd think a period of flight testing for shakedown purposes would be needed, but not running into much more than the time taken to carry out specific tests. It wouldn't be run and/or flown for hundreds of hours first.
Who's talking about aircraft?
I was, but never mind. I suspect your brain was operating at too high a level for you to understand little old me.
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