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Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

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What alternatives are there, not more expensive than the Rega DAC, preferably with more than a single optical input?

I've had two of one of the above fail on me and am reluctant to go for third time lucky so intend to get my money back.

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Source 3) iTunes (ALAC), iMac, Devolo Homeplugs, Apple TV3, Toslink, Arcam rDAC

Source 4) Technics SL-7 linear tracking turntable.

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

Hi,

Often see Audiolab ex dem on ebay, usually go for between £425-£475, within your budget and with good choice of inputs.

DacMagic + i believe retails for about £350 and again good range of inputs.

Both on my radar at present.

Good luck, intrigued how you get on.

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

This gets rave reviews and it is very good indeed; heard it side by side with the Rega DAC and the MF M1DAC and preferred the Emotiva by a long shot; an overall smoother but more detailed sound

http://www.itemaudio.co.uk/emotiva_xda1.html

 

 

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

I have one of these and rate it highly.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PS-Audio-Digital-Link-III-Audio-DAC-/230882581...

There's 2 s/h available. I have nothing to do with either.

 

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RE: crikey 2 Rega DACs

crikey 2 **** DACs failing?

you must be extremely unlucky? What was the problem?

 

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

Audiolab M-DAC. Better than the three DACs you listed and one of few DACs with more than one optical input. Plus remote control and headphone amp (if you ever interested in it)

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

dragon76 wrote:

Audiolab M-DAC. Better than the three DACs you listed and one of few DACs with more than one optical input. Plus remote control and headphone amp (if you ever interested in it)

 

Better? have you listened to all the other DACS can you quantify better?

 

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

Yes, I did. M1 and Rega were at my home demo at the same time, M-DAC sounded better. They sounded better thru SPDIF coax inputs and I also found that M-DAC's USB input implementation was better as well. I owned RDAC before.

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

I guess it all comes down to how you like the presentation! They are all good DACS.

I have only ever heard the Rega DAC, but when I heard it with my Brio/RS1 it just made my toes curl, it made a big upgrade to my cdp maybe it was the Rega synergy kicking in, but I have never regret buying it.

I think probably the M_DAC sounded better in 'your' system but I wouldnt say any of the mentioned DACS are better than each other...only my opinion though!

Rega DAC has 2 coax, 2 optical & 1 USB

 

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

Thank you all for your comments. I will search out this thread in future if I need to revisit the subject.  For now I have been talked into trying number three of the same; at least it saves me having to decide.

 

Steve, I don't know why you assumed two Rega failures; I was careful to not name and shame because I do believe I have just been extremely unlucky.  Support from the company in question has been good.  To answer your question about what was wrong, the first suffered frequent short dropouts in a wired streaming system and the second started cutting out completely within two minutes of starting to receive a signal and had to be rebooted to get another 90 seconds, etc, etc.

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Source 1) "Inspired" Manticore Mantra turntable c/w Rega RB 301 arm, Goldring 1042 MM Cartridge, Graham Slee Reflex M phono stage, Graham Slee CuSat 50 interconnect

Source 2) Cyrus CD8 SE CD player

Source 3) iTunes (ALAC), iMac, Devolo Homeplugs, Apple TV3, Toslink, Arcam rDAC

Source 4) Technics SL-7 linear tracking turntable.

Roksan Kandy L3 amp, Spendor A5 speakers.

Other rooms: more Airport Expresses and Homeplugs with Denon AV system and Denon Mini system. 

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

ifor wrote:

Thank you all for your comments. I will search out this thread in future if I need to revisit the subject.  For now I have been talked into trying number three of the same; at least it saves me having to decide.

 

Steve, I don't know why you assumed two Rega failures; I was careful to not name and shame because I do believe I have just been extremely unlucky.  Support from the company in question has been good.  To answer your question about what was wrong, the first suffered frequent short dropouts in a wired streaming system and the second started cutting out completely within two minutes of starting to receive a signal and had to be rebooted to get another 90 seconds, etc, etc.

 

 

 

 

errr because you said so in your post, I must say Rega are very good at sorting these things out - I would go as far as saying you have been extremely very unlucky! 

Out of interest re: the hard wired connection were you using optical or coax? did you try another cable?

 

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

Ah! I can see why you thought that.  The reference to the Rega DAC was only intended to fix my price limit.  Sorry for the confusion.

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Source 1) "Inspired" Manticore Mantra turntable c/w Rega RB 301 arm, Goldring 1042 MM Cartridge, Graham Slee Reflex M phono stage, Graham Slee CuSat 50 interconnect

Source 2) Cyrus CD8 SE CD player

Source 3) iTunes (ALAC), iMac, Devolo Homeplugs, Apple TV3, Toslink, Arcam rDAC

Source 4) Technics SL-7 linear tracking turntable.

Roksan Kandy L3 amp, Spendor A5 speakers.

Other rooms: more Airport Expresses and Homeplugs with Denon AV system and Denon Mini system. 

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

ifor wrote:

Ah! I can see why you thought that.  The reference to the Rega DAC was only intended to fix my price limit.  Sorry for the confusion.

 

ifor I see

i have changed my initial post so google doesnt pick it up that **** DAC faliure!

I must say the Rega DAC is superb imho

 

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RE: Alternatives to Arcam rDAC, MF 1-DAC and Rega DAC ???

stevebrock wrote:

Out of interest re: the hard wired connection were you using optical or coax? did you try another cable?

Steve, I just noticed I haven't answered your question.  Optical connection.  I tried three different cables.  The company replicated the same problem in their lab when I returned the first unit.  It only happened with one audio source both in at my place and in the lab.  The other units they tested all performed perfectly so we were confident the replacement unit would be absolutely fine, which it appeared to be for a couple of weeks or so.  I wasn't paying too much attention to it because at the same time I had a Graham Slee phono stage (excellent by the way) on home loan.  When the phono stage went back I turned my attention back to the DAC and became aware that it had failed in very different way to the first.

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Source 1) "Inspired" Manticore Mantra turntable c/w Rega RB 301 arm, Goldring 1042 MM Cartridge, Graham Slee Reflex M phono stage, Graham Slee CuSat 50 interconnect

Source 2) Cyrus CD8 SE CD player

Source 3) iTunes (ALAC), iMac, Devolo Homeplugs, Apple TV3, Toslink, Arcam rDAC

Source 4) Technics SL-7 linear tracking turntable.

Roksan Kandy L3 amp, Spendor A5 speakers.

Other rooms: more Airport Expresses and Homeplugs with Denon AV system and Denon Mini system.