I agree with you about the old tweeter on the 1000i series. I had a pair of the 1030i floorstanders briefly and, though I liked the overall sound and presentation, the tweeter spoiled them for me. Fortunately, the new tweeter on the 2000i series is much much better. The Denon amp sits slightly on the brighter side so the relative warmth of the Q's top-end works well.
It is also interesting what you say about the difficult top end of some other speakers, and particularly that you name-check the 685s and BX2s. I found the 685s very tiring after the first couple of CDs in a longer listening session and I frequently reached the point where I couldn't listen any longer, even though there were many things I did like about the sound. I notice the review in the latest WHFS&V also references the 'detached treble' as one of the downsides. There are also plenty of other speakers around which, whilst good, can get tiring as I found when I had the KEF Q300s here.
I'm quite sure there are plenty of speakers out there that are better than the Qs at more money but, as I have found, there are also plenty of those which bring even more detail but in a tiring way which discourages longer listening sessions. I'm pleased to hear you are still enjoying the Neutron Vs - it sounds like they may be a stand-out speaker in a £400-£500 market which otherwise seems to have many speakers designed to impress in short bursts. If I'd had the money I may well have considered the Neutrons but for now they'll have to stay on a 'future possibilities' list as, apart from anything else, I plan to enjoy the Qs for some time.
So long as you're enjoying them that's what counts. The Q Acoustics are very 'listenable' (for want of a better word).
I knew someone who had the B+W 685 speakers with a Marantz amp which sounded great in the shop but after owning them for a few months he wanted to change them because of listening fatigue whenever he listened to music for more than an hour or so. He now has a pair of Yamaha HS50M speakers and is happy as a pig in poo.
Yes listening fattigue is the worst thing and i think it's most the tweeter that courses listening fattigue
Presonus 22vsl soundcard, Tc electronic level pilot and Yamaha HS8 with 40 mm foam between the speakers and my desk
I'm glad you didn't top yourself so that you could post this review. I love this album but I try not to listen to it in anything other than a good mood.
MP, what's the size of your listening room and which finish did you opt for on the Q's? (I'm sure I've read one dubious review where the reviewer claimed the gloss version sounded better)
Marantz CD63 KI - Onkyo TX-8050 - Ruark Talisman II/Ruark Icon/Mission 752F/Wharfedale 9.1/JPW Sonata/Tannoy DC4
Rotel RCD865 - RTC850L/RB850 (pre/power)
Yes, Nick Drake is rather bleak stuff. I love his music but, like you, I have to be in a positive frame of mind.
Its a long open-plan room, with lounge area at the front, dining room, then kitchen at the back. The listening space is approx 10ft long (plus the bay window space) and 11ft wide, with the speakers firing across the width. The room as a whole is approx 30ft long.
I went for the walnut finish as it is a reasonable match with my Blok 200 hi-fi stand and I'm not a fan of gloss black or white finishes on speakers (apart from anything else the gloss black finishes always look cheap compared to the pianos I'm dealing with at work).
I don't go in for the finish making much difference to the sound of speakers, although I have noted with pianos that satin wood finishes do have a slightly different tonal character to the same make/model in Black Polyester....
Rega RP3/White Belt/Elys2 - Pioneer A-30 - Dali Zensor 3. (+ Denon DCD720AE for CDs)
Pioneer PL12D II - Sansui AU2200 - Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 (+ Philips CD840 for CDs)
Thank you. I'm quite tempted
I have an ancient set-up (JVC AS-5 Mission 700) and considering getting back into some low end modern kit. Thinking about 2020i and maybe a denon 520 amp. I have ripped my CDs using an old laptop running vortexbox so also plan to get a cheap usb DAC. I wonder if I'm missing something and should instead go for some sort of streaming or optical input amp? Any thoughts as to whether the basic system will meet my needs? I have also seen that RS have Marantz PM5004 at a reasonable price, does anyone thing that would be a better match for my needs and the 2020s than the denon? Any advice gratefully received! Martin
just a quick question
among the 2020i and zensor1 which is more fuller and does the low end better?
Definitely the Q 2020i.
how about 2020i vs lektor 2, overall and bass department in particular?
Close-run thing that. It is some time since I had Lektor 2s but they were very musical and involving speakers, on the warm side like the Qs but perhaps a smidge less open than the 2020i. Not much in it though if my memory of the Lektors is right. Availability is the achilles heel of the Lektors now - hardly anyone appears to list them. I believe Dali are launching some Zensor 3s so perhaps the Lektor range is on the way out...
Been using the Qs for a couple of weeks now and I still love them. Brilliant speakers. The fact that they happen to be so affordable is a great bonus.
Where did you choose to buy yours from?
I got them from Richer Sounds. My usual dealer doesn't have the Qs.
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