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I should be getting some money soon and will buy the Marantz MCR603

I was going to get the Dali Zensor 1's with it all for around £450

I know we all have slightly different tastes and hear things slightly differently, so comparing the Dali Zensor 1's with the Q Aqcoustics 2020i would you say they are about the same sound wise going on from your review above

I currently have the Denon DM37 with there given Denon Speakers which I find a little bass heavy and boomy, so I should notice a good noticeable improvement would you think with the MCR603 and Dali Zensor 1's, thanks

 

 

 

Hi Snooker.

I think that will work very well.  The Zensor 1s and the 2020i are both excellent value.  Worth auditioning, as the Zensors will veer slightly towards being light in the bass, especially if you are used to the Denon package which, I agree, can sound a bit on the boomy side.  The Zensors are tight and rhythmic sounding with a very open soundstage, which should suit the slightly smooth sound of the Marantz very nicely.

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A few months ago my young sister bought a new tv and seeing as the Onkyo 308 (if memory serves) was on sale at Richer Sounds for around the  £150.00 at the time... I suggested that she got this as well given that both she and her new husband liked the movies as well as music.

(before anyone asks, nope she and he are and were not loaded)

I noticed a pair of stereo speakers for a decent price again in Richer's and for the life of me I cannot remmenber which now, anyway suffice to say I went along to Richer Sounds to buy said speakers (name I cannot now remember, sigh)  and during a conversation with one of the salesmen he offered me the Q Acoustics 2020i for the same amount of money and he said as to how good they were... so I bought them.  :clap:

Oh, both of them love them  :0

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The 751s are more explicitly detailed but the Qs are easier to listen to and somehow more engaging.  The Qs seem to put the music first, whereas the 751s are very hi-fi to my ears.  Both are excellent speakers.  Again, my 751s were bought used and are cosmetically a bit scruffy so not ideal for the main living space.

 

Thanks MP - depends on the partnering equipment I guess.  I'd never have described the 751s as "hi fi" sounding though.  One of the most musical speakers I've heard.  Detailed yes.  Perhaps their abilities to pick out the detail in the music against the softer sounding Qs are a question of preference for people in the end.  Thanks anyway, interesting feedback.

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My one experience of the Q2020i speakers was in Richer Sounds, Liverpool, a few weeks ago. I was walking through an empty demo room with Phil, the store manager, to retrieve my ex-demo Arcam A-18 from the shop window. In the room they had a pair of large floorstanders set up together with a much smaller pair of speakers. Something off 'Tango in the night' was playing fairly quietly in the background.  I remarked to Phil, "Those floorstanders sound good. What are they?" He gave me a look. "They're the Q2020s." He replied.  :wall:

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matthewpiano wrote:

The 751s are more explicitly detailed but the Qs are easier to listen to and somehow more engaging.  The Qs seem to put the music first, whereas the 751s are very hi-fi to my ears.  Both are excellent speakers.  Again, my 751s were bought used and are cosmetically a bit scruffy so not ideal for the main living space.

 

Thanks MP - depends on the partnering equipment I guess.  I'd never have described the 751s as "hi fi" sounding though.  One of the most musical speakers I've heard.  Detailed yes.  Perhaps their abilities to pick out the detail in the music against the softer sounding Qs are a question of preference for people in the end.  Thanks anyway, interesting feedback.

Hi RS.  I'm not saying the 751s aren't musical - they most definitely are.  There is, however, something more engrossing and involving about the Qs that works well with my particular system and in my particular room.  

Hope you are well and still enjoying your Tannoys.  Smile

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Why didn't you wait a little longer and move up a price bracket or two?

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Why didn't you wait a little longer and move up a price bracket or two?

I had been using B&W 685s for a while and, excellent though they are, I found them tiring over long listening sessions - that detached treble WHFS&V refer to in their latest review. I sold them. Current finances aren't going to allow a big step up for some time and it would take a lot of listening and auditioning to convince me to part with bigger money.  I wanted something I could really enjoy listening to and which would work well with the Denon.  To be honest, listening to music last night, I didn't feel like I was missing anything.  The Qs sound much bigger than they are, lay tremendous amounts of detail out without shoving it down your ears, and really create an involving sense of atmosphere.  I'm finding them far more enjoyable than the 685s or Q300s which have both had periods in my room in recent months.  That isn't to say they are BETTER than those speakers, but there is something innately right about the sound that suits me and my room/system.

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MP, have you heard the Tannoy V1's? They're almost identical in price to the 2020i's

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MP, have you heard the Tannoy V1's? They're almost identical in price to the 2020i's

Yes, my Dad has the V1s, also paired with a PMA720AE.  They are excellent speakers.

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But the 2020i's edge them in your opinion?

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I'd say the 2020s create more atmosphere, which is one of the things I really like.

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That's great Matthew. Guess I would have considered the 2020i too but was too shy of the paper specs. Your experience of the BX2s were mine exactly, as good as they were.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying the RX1 and will keep them Wink

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That's great Matthew. Guess I would have considered the 2020i too but was too shy of the paper specs. Your experience of the BX2s were mine exactly, as good as they were.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying the RX1 and will keep them Wink

The RX1s are great speakers.  Smile

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cse wrote:

Why didn't you wait a little longer and move up a price bracket or two?

I had been using B&W 685s for a while and, excellent though they are, I found them tiring over long listening sessions - that detached treble WHFS&V refer to in their latest review. I sold them. Current finances aren't going to allow a big step up for some time and it would take a lot of listening and auditioning to convince me to part with bigger money.  I wanted something I could really enjoy listening to and which would work well with the Denon.  To be honest, listening to music last night, I didn't feel like I was missing anything.  The Qs sound much bigger than they are, lay tremendous amounts of detail out without shoving it down your ears, and really create an involving sense of atmosphere.  I'm finding them far more enjoyable than the 685s or Q300s which have both had periods in my room in recent months.  That isn't to say they are BETTER than those speakers, but there is something innately right about the sound that suits me and my room/system.

Congrats, Matthew.

Just out of interest - wondering whether you miss any of the scale the 685 or RX1s give? Although not a bass head, my overriding issue with tiny monitors is without a strong bass, it can sound a little empty. Or are the Qs so good that all the plus points outweigh the slight bottom-end shortfall?

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Hope you are well and still enjoying your Tannoys.  Smile

 

Not bad thanks mate, likewise.  Yeah, the Tannoys are a bit good.  Like their finish as well as the sound off them.  Terrific for small rooms or when pointing across a room as mine do.

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