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If I had your budget I would buy a pair of active AVI ADM 9RS/RSS and use any disc spinner that you have that has an optical out.

+1.  If you want to make a hobby out of tinkering with your hifi, look elsewhere.  If you want a fit-and-forget system that sounds great, I don't think you can do better for your money.

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Thanks all!

Am going to test some of these systems tomorrow and I feel seriously tempted by the idea of AVI ADM9, after all the point is really to get the best possible quality of sound, not necessarily playing/tinkering with the system. Last question: I am not really a bass freak but I do like to hear it and generally, I like a warm sound... how do the AVI ADM9 fare in that respect?

 

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You need to listen to something like the Rega system and the Active AVI speakers and pick what you prefer. Something is only good vfm if you like it. Never buy blind if you can possibly help it.

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You need to listen to something like the Rega system and the Active AVI speakers and pick what you prefer. Something is only good vfm if you like it. Never buy blind if you can possibly help it.

I would say that the bass on actives is not necessarily less, but generally better controlled. It is the lack of bass bloom that is perceived as less bass.

Yes, in essence, the best speaker/system is the one you like the sound of the best.

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CnoEvil wrote:

You need to listen to something like the Rega system and the Active AVI speakers and pick what you prefer. Something is only good vfm if you like it. Never buy blind if you can possibly help it.

I would say that the bass on actives is not necessarily less, but generally better controlled. It is the lack of bass bloom that is perceived as less bass.

Yes, in essence, the best speaker/system is the one you like the sound of the best.

At the budget we are talking about, you are probably right, though my experience with sensibly priced Actives is limited (non-existent). For me, the biggest factor in whether I like a system, is in the mid-range, as everything else seems to "hang off" that.....I am looking for a natural presentation, with the intention of the musicians being communicated, which is totally subjective.

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[I would say that the bass on actives is not necessarily less, but generally better controlled. It is the lack of bass bloom that is perceived as less bass...

You're forgetting the major impact the cabinet size and construction methods have on bass and its control, not to mention the fr of the driver.

As with any passive or active speaker, if the driver can't go low (and that usually means small ones) you can't add what isn't there. If your box is boomy, again the xover type ain't going to make much difference.

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altruistic.lemon wrote:

Overdose wrote:

[I would say that the bass on actives is not necessarily less, but generally better controlled. It is the lack of bass bloom that is perceived as less bass...

You're forgetting the major impact the cabinet size and construction methods have on bass and its control, not to mention the fr of the driver.

As with any passive or active speaker, if the driver can't go low (and that usually means small ones) you can't add what isn't there. If your box is boomy, again the xover type ain't going to make much difference.

 

The AMds have 6.5 inch woofer so I think the bass will be fine, but tight not boomy, not sure they will sound warm , more neutral from what Ive heard.

I'm in a similar position to you, I will demo some Rega gear and others then have a trip to Gloucestshire and hear the AMD system. The AMD system seems better value, with quality speakers, 250 watt amp for each woofer and 75 W amp foe each tweeter and decent DAC. Some converts have been over moon the witn the active system but depends what you want and your taste.

 

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my recommendation, based on experience, is get accurate sounding speakers even if you like warm sound. after you get used to controlled, accurate bass you will no longer like warm sound. and you will not be able to stand boomy bass.

what you hear on average speakers and subs is lots and lots (up to 20-30% in low bass) harmonic distortion, which is percieved as deep or lots of bass, while what it does to the actually recorded bass is mush it, mask it and make it 'one-note', as apposed to reproducing a bass melody/rulade, for example. add room resonances to it and you get the speaekr and room boom, not the bass from the record.

see section 3 here for an example:

http://www.linkwitzlab.com/thor-measmt.htm

 

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altruistic.lemon wrote:

Overdose wrote:

[I would say that the bass on actives is not necessarily less, but generally better controlled. It is the lack of bass bloom that is perceived as less bass...

You're forgetting the major impact the cabinet size and construction methods have on bass and its control, not to mention the fr of the driver.

As with any passive or active speaker, if the driver can't go low (and that usually means small ones) you can't add what isn't there. If your box is boomy, again the xover type ain't going to make much difference.

I see what you are saying, but the crossover does have an important role to play here and also, regarding small monitors, in the main, they are designed to not to try to dig too deep, as subs are available to match them.

THIS is quite a good explanation.

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