I've heard some active and passive Dynaudios speakers side by side and the active ones sounded a little bit better in both cases.
Not the huge difference that many claim then? Because of the warmer, bassier sound of the Dynaudio's models, I'd have expected a bigger difference.
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The biggest difference was the bass which was noticeably more boomy and less well defined on the passives.
Apart from that the difference between them was subtle. The actives were a fraction clearer but I certainly wouldn't descrbe it as a 'huge difference'.
PC > AVI Neutron Five 2.1
32GB Sony NWZ-A846 Walkman > Westone UM3x
For possible comparisons, try Dynaudio Focus 110 and 110A?
Edit: In fact don't bother, this is getting tedious. The OP has long ago declared that he is in no imediate danger of getting upgraditis, so move along folks, nothing to see here.
Mac mini > AVI ADM9Ts
I tend to find Dynaudios a little too full in the bottom end anyway (hence why they went well with earlier Cyrus), so I wouldn't say that their sound is fully representative of the best passives. Many other passives are tighter and more defined.
And available to buy at Frank Harvey HiFi??????????????????????????[and other retailers too, just for balance].
Apple Lossless - ATV3 - AVI ADM 40 or Marantz CD50SE (modded] - AVI ADM 40
also ATV3 into AVI ADM 9T [my wife's system] and Grado SR80i
this is the spin that your viewpoint places on what I have written.
You're right of course. Sadly, my viewpoint is borne of long experience of being told that all passive speakers are inaccurate, do not control bass, and boom, which is spectacularly, er, inaccurate. However, I apologise for projecting those views on you, should you not hold them.
I believe the OP had asked specifically about active speakers and AVI speakers in particular and as I have some I gave my opinion on what I KNOW to be certain facts on the ADM 9Ts only.
You did not, however, answer the questions he actually asked.
You could have balanced things better by saying that all speakers have strengths and weaknesses
To be fair, I think I've done that on an occasion or two, including pointing out the - not inconsiderable - strengths of the particular speaker you refer to. Its weaknesses, however, would prevent me from buying it and would probably prevent me from recommending them to the OP.
you love your speakers which are...
...in my signature.
I am happy to accept your apology, thank you.
I answered the questions I was able, honestly, to do[please read his first question and then see if my reply does not answer that] I can't tell him about things I don't know because I don't have his listening experience.
You can modify the sound of the 9Ts with different sources but I don't KNOW if it will suit him. Similarly I don't know about his 3rd question and neither I suspect does anyone else because he is not specific about the valve/hybrid combination.
The fact that you have been more balanced on previous occasions helps the OP out on THIS occasion how exactly? If you had said to the OP what you have said in your "to be fair" paragraph to me; then you would have been far more useful and balanced than you were.
The, "which are..............." wasn't aimed specifically at you. I also think that it is awfully nice that your speaker manufacturer is warrantying your amplification and DAC for you, which of course is what AVI are doing for me!!
Overall I think that you should remember that you hold a position, real or imagined by us, of power because you are a moderator on this forum.
That in, my opinion, requires you to be as balanced as possible to ensure that you do not stiffle open and honest debate.
Despite your apology to me I notice that you have straight away posted other, seemingly paranoid responses on this thread.
It is MOST DISCONCERTING.
I said it at the bottom of the first page:
I'm flattered that you think I have a position of power. Perhaps I should ask to be paid for it. I shall take your advice under consideration and hope sincerel that will share it with all forum moderators you come into contact with. I'd also ask for contributions from anybody who can show examples of where debate has been stifled on this site recently...
This is the spin that your viewpoint places on what I have written.
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What going on in this thread? Surley its a dead duck!
Agreed. I'm out...
Can there be an 'active speakers' forum or sub-forum? (Or maybe 'fight club' where digital cable threads can reside as well.)
The more vociferous active (ok, mostly AVI) loudspeaker/monitor spokespeople can then have their own corner and everyone will know where to find the action if they want to watch or take part.
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agreed,but the first rule is?
That may or not be a good idea. But if you hive off actives then how will people, indoctrinated in the behemoth of passives, find out about the true path to enlightenment. AND NO you do not have to take the last few words literally[just for the more explosive of you].
But if you hive off actives then how will people, indoctrinated in the behemoth of passives, find out about the true path to enlightenment.
Erm, by looking in the 'actives' forum?
HiFi / A/V / Bedroom
Yesterday a friend and i were driving to the beach when i spotted a pretty lady, i said look at the bum on that she looked great from behind to which he replied: My ex girlfriend looks much better from behind. I said in your opinion! He said no, she looks better.
Whatever, i said, as i drove along, thinking how can he not know that better is subjective? And wondering how i could setup an ABX test
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Laptop... HTC One X....ATV3....ADM9Ts...Two German Shorthaired Pointers...
"I shall take your advice under consideration and hope sincerel that will share it with all forum moderators you come into contact with. I'd also ask for contributions from anybody who can show examples of where debate has been stifled on this site recently..."
I have not come across any other moderators. But if I do and they are as unbalanced as I find you to be, at times, then you can rest assured that I shall not shrink away from my keyboard.
You are unlikely to get examples of stifled debate because of the reasons why that debate may have been stifled in the first place. There are contributors on here who reveal, in other places, that they fear blocking by you if they push their point against you too hard. Some have even claimed specific warnings to that effect.
The power, real or presummed, to block people from future participation in this forum is a real inhibitor to many people and a power that should not be misused. However unintentionally.
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