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I’ve decided to get back into hifi after an absence of many years and have allocated 5k, (6k at a push if it warranted it) but if I can find an amazing system for less that’s fine!

 

I’m looking for new speakers an amp and as my source a turntable.

 

My listening room is quite small 4m x 3.5m I do prefer floorstanders but will consider standmounts which produce good bass                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 

 

I’ve already listened to some Dynaudio X32s and PMC twenty 23s and found them both excellent however compared to the Dynaudios I found the PMCs a liitle harsh and maybe a little fatiguing for longer listening sessions whilst the Dynaudios just seemed to sound right.

 

I listen to all types of rock from the 60s to modern stuff

 

On the subject of turntables I was told it’s not worth spending more than £500. Do you get a much better sound quality from a £1000 turntable compared to a £500 one or is it more a question of esoteric designs and better build quality/looks? Same for tonearms do much more expensive ones give a far superior sound?

 

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RE: 5-6k system advice

Hi there, and welcome to the forum.

I have not had a TT for 20 years, but I can say with a little certainty that money spent on a TT is well worthwhile.....even more so than a digital source. Back in the day it was recomended that you should spend half your budget on it, though I'm not sure I would go that far.

In order to get meaningful advice, can you describe the type of sound that you like, and be a little more specific about the music you listen to ie. What modern stuff?

Is Vinyl going to be your sole source?.

 

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RE: 5-6k system advice

It all depends what turntable you get for that money. Most of the best sounding turntables ever made have been out of production for a long time. There are large, easily noticeable, fundamental differences between the best turntable / arm / cartridge / phono amp combinations and the less good ones.

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RE: 5-6k system advice

I'm with Cnoevil on this one.

If, as you suggest, the turntable is going to be the only source then it had better be a good one.

You may very well get away with a £500 one but I feel with a budget like this you would do much better by spending more.

The source is vital. Garbage in, garbage out as they say and your speakers are not going to do a whole lot if the source is substandard.

Audition whatever you can. Do you have any friends with a vinyl set-up?

If it was my money I would allocate at least a third on the TT (assuming it is the only source).

I am not sure about the best-sounding turntables being out of production though. Most that I know of are still going strong.

 

 

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RE: 5-6k system advice

Just to add to the helpful responses from Cno and Alears, you could do a lot worse than finding a Rega dealer and auditioning an RP3 and RP6 against one another. That would give you a good baseline, which would help you to decide how much you want to spend on your turntable.

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RE: 5-6k system advice

I would be listening to something like the Naim ovator s400 with a nait xs with something like the rega rp6, or if you can push it a michell gyrodec Wink

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Personally I would spend around £2K of your budget on TT + phono preamp.  For the TT I would look at the new offerings and upgrade packages from Inspire HiFi and I would couple the TT with a Graham Slee Reflex phono preamp.

"Inspired" Manticore Mantra TT, Technics SL-7 TT, Graham Slee Reflex M phono preamp.  Cyrus CD8SE.  iMac, Raspberry Pi c/w HiFiBerry Digi c/w Volumio or Rune Audio, Arcam rDAC.  Roksan Kandy LIII amp, Spendor A5 speakers.

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Having heard the Elicit-R again in the last few days I would not hesitate to go for:

Rega RP6

Rega Elicit-R

+ choice of speakers (I'd be wanting to audition Rega's own speakers as well as KEF R-Series and PMC Twenty Series.)

 

The Elicit-R is an incredible amplifier.   It really controls the sound across the frequency range and creates a really well sorted soundstage with superb dynamics.  If you want to audition 2 or 3 amplifiers I'd add the Arcam A-38 and Creek Destiny 2 into the equation too.

Rega RP3/Elys 2 - Graham Slee Gram Amp 1 - Rega Apollo R - Exposure 1010 amp - Dynaudio DM2/6 - Chord Co. Chameleon VEE3/Rumour 2 - Musical Fidelity V90-HPA - Sennheiser HD595

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If it were my money I'd start by auditioning the new Rega Elicit-R with Totem Arros. Turntable would range around Rega's own RP6 or Gyrodec.

But try and listen to as many different combos as possible.

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plastic penguin wrote:

If it were my money I'd start by auditioning the new Rega Elicit-R with Totem Arros. Turntable would range around Rega's own RP6 or Gyrodec.

But try and listen to as many different combos as possible.

The Elicit R & RP6 a good combo then I reckon!

Im selling my GSXR750, I should get £2k for it some guy coming tomorrow to buy it hopefuly - The Elicit R has my name on it!

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stevebrock wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

If it were my money I'd start by auditioning the new Rega Elicit-R with Totem Arros. Turntable would range around Rega's own RP6 or Gyrodec.

But try and listen to as many different combos as possible.

The Elicit R & RP6 a good combo then I reckon!

Im selling my GSXR750, I should get £2k for it some guy coming tomorrow to buy it hopefuly - The Elicit R has my name on it!

Well I've heard it on two seperate occasions in two different environments now Steve and I'd say the Elicit-R is one of the best all-round amplifiers I've ever heard.  If you do get one I'll be very jealous!

However, I'll be quite happy if I manage to get a Brio-R at some point in the not too distant future.

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matthewpiano wrote:

stevebrock wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

If it were my money I'd start by auditioning the new Rega Elicit-R with Totem Arros. Turntable would range around Rega's own RP6 or Gyrodec.

But try and listen to as many different combos as possible.

The Elicit R & RP6 a good combo then I reckon!

Im selling my GSXR750, I should get £2k for it some guy coming tomorrow to buy it hopefuly - The Elicit R has my name on it!

Well I've heard it on two seperate occasions in two different environments now Steve and I'd say the Elicit-R is one of the best all-round amplifiers I've ever heard.  If you do get one I'll be very jealous!

I have heard it also - its awesome - not even bothering listening to the Nait XS2 - I love the Rega sound so dont want to upset things!

Better phojo stage too! If I get lucky with my bike then possibly an Aria too!

Reckon it will sound mint with RS3 speakers

 

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stevebrock wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

If it were my money I'd start by auditioning the new Rega Elicit-R with Totem Arros. Turntable would range around Rega's own RP6 or Gyrodec.

But try and listen to as many different combos as possible.

The Elicit R & RP6 a good combo then I reckon!

Im selling my GSXR750,

Out of curiosity, what is a GSXR 750? Sounds like a motorbike.

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yes Kawasaki GSXR750 - lovely bike - but my 8 lives have gone and i have family now!

 

Michell Gyrodec, RB303, Benz Micro Ace H, Icon Audio ST40 w/KT88s, PS1 Phono, Kudos X2, Rega Apollo R, DAC

 

 

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stevebrock wrote:

yes Kawasaki GSXR750 - lovely bike - but my 8 lives have gone and i have family now!

 

The things we do for music :grin:

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stevebrock wrote:

yes Kawasaki GSXR750 - lovely bike - but my 8 lives have gone and i have family now!

 

My brother has the H2 version. Smile

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