HD650 or something else? Does a onkyo SR607 work fine with any headphones?
I tried Spotify and just gave up. I don't even remember why. But I do know that it was trying to be a closed environment and not friendly to normal people.
The 650s won't dazzle you with treble sparkle or super-wide soundstage but in my experience, with careful partnering, they can sound very good.
When I first received mine I tried them with an old NAD 302 amp, the sound was as described above - dull, muddy, lifeless etc.
I later purchased an Icon Audio HP8 valve amp specifically for them, things improved greatly but they still retained some of their character, namely a lush, thick colouration, which is nice for a time but can feel like you're listening to music through a filter. I've also used them with the Heed CanAmp and Sugden Headmaster, they were underwhelming, though both of these amps work well with the HD600s.
Easily my favorite amp with them is with the beta22, they become much more transparent, to the point that the source will make a significant difference to the sound.
Yeah so ive read aswell, that hd650 and differ so much depending what amp/dac you use. Doesnt seem to be that easy getting beta 22 here in sweden, also it's perhaps a bit too expensive.
Or well if beta 22/bottlehead and other amps ive been reading about REALLY MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE, then I dont mind investing some money in it. Im not that poor just dont want to put out money for 1-2% better performance.
And is tube amps fine with source being comp > optical > onkyo > TV/TAPE out > tube amp > headphone? 
Aha. You lose me at "tube amps". Pointless retrograde nonsense imo.
hmpf, yeah been reading about tubes last two hours and think i've decided not going tube after all. Seems like have to maintain them, change tubes, w8 some time before tubes get warm etc etc. I just want something solid wich lasts for years 
Been playing that album on repeat, very nice. Reminds me of Gregor samsa and Immanu el a little bit.
Valves/tubes for a Senn 650? Not a good match!
hmpf, yeah been reading about tubes last two hours and think i've decided not going tube after all. Seems like have to maintain them, change tubes, w8 some time before tubes get warm etc etc. I just want something solid wich lasts for years
Been playing that album on repeat, very nice. Reminds me of Gregor samsa and Immanu el a little bit.
Excellent. Yes GregorSamsa.Young and Old is a classic.
btw.
Erm that's Sickoakes. Swedish band.
September Malevolence – Tomorrow We'll Wonder Where This Generation Gets Its Priorities From
Another Swedish Post Rock band.
Final Days Society – Noice Passes Silent Remains
Another Swedish PR/shoegaze band...
btw.
Erm that's Sickoakes. Swedish band.
September Malevolence – Tomorrow We'll Wonder Where This Generation Gets Its Priorities From
Another Swedish Post Rock band.
Final Days Society – Noice Passes Silent Remains
Another Swedish PR/shoegaze band...
The 650s won't dazzle you with treble sparkle or super-wide soundstage but in my experience, with careful partnering, they can sound very good.
When I first received mine I tried them with an old NAD 302 amp, the sound was as described above - dull, muddy, lifeless etc.
I later purchased an Icon Audio HP8 valve amp specifically for them, things improved greatly but they still retained some of their character, namely a lush, thick colouration, which is nice for a time but can feel like you're listening to music through a filter. I've also used them with the Heed CanAmp and Sugden Headmaster, they were underwhelming, though both of these amps work well with the HD600s.
Easily my favorite amp with them is with the beta22, they become much more transparent, to the point that the source will make a significant difference to the sound.
Yeah so ive read aswell, that hd650 and differ so much depending what amp/dac you use. Doesnt seem to be that easy getting beta 22 here in sweden, also it's perhaps a bit too expensive.
Or well if beta 22/bottlehead and other amps ive been reading about REALLY MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE, then I dont mind investing some money in it. Im not that poor just dont want to put out money for 1-2% better performance.
And is tube amps fine with source being comp > optical > onkyo > TV/TAPE out > tube amp > headphone?