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£2000 buys a lot of food.

I mean, how could anyone justify spending that on a pair of headphones? Ridiculous.

The same as anyone can justify spending £30,000 on a car, or £2,000 on a designer jacket.....or even virtually a third of their salary for rent in London.

Different people have different priorities I suppose.

I have just spent £250.00 on a Whiplash Audio 8-wire-hybrid Custom Cable for my A.4i's   :doh:

I really must stay of these website when I have been drinking a little bit too much  :roll: I'm surprised I just didnt order myself a pair of LCD2's!!

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Biggerboat wrote:

£2000 buys a lot of food.

I mean, how could anyone justify spending that on a pair of headphones? Ridiculous.

The same as anyone can justify spending £30,000 on a car, or £2,000 on a designer jacket.....or even virtually a third of their salary for rent in London.

Different people have different priorities I suppose.

And different income levels... the kind of people that would spend £300,000 on a car or £2000 (or more) on a hotel room for one night or drop ten's of thousands in a casino. It's all relative isn't it.

Perhaps it's wrong, but at the moment, that's how the world is...

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OK, let me at least ask it this way:  what profit margin are they making on those LCD3s?

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OK, let me at least ask it this way:  what profit margin are they making on those LCD3s?

The gross margin per headphone could be 50 percent, or even 90 percent, but unfortunately the sales volume will be small enough that they will likely fold one of these days due to expenses. If they are very lucky and plan ahead well, they might be able to survive or even thrive, but they will never get rich unless they diversify.

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Biggerboat wrote:

OK, let me at least ask it this way:  what profit margin are they making on those LCD3s?

I've no idea! A big margin I suspect, because volume of sales will be pretty low I imagine. It's a bit like first class vs economy on a plane.

20% goes to VAT

They are paying US labour rates rather than Chinese.

What makes them worth £1100ish more than the LCD2's? They are worth what some people are prepared to pay to have the top of the range I suppose. Goes well with the Breitling watch and Porsche.

I doubt I'd be able to hear the difference myself.

At the moment I'm desperately trying to refrain from spending "only" £395 on HE-400's because that would be £395 less for next years holiday or equivalent to a months worth of food from the supermarket.

 

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£2000 buys a lot of food.

The problem is you can't hear your music with the food Smile

Biggerboat wrote:

I mean, how could anyone justify spending that on a pair of headphones?

Why does he have to justify it.......especially to you. Surely he can buy what he wants, it's his money, he's worked for it. So you haven't got £2000 to drop on a pair of headphones, get a better job and stop whinging.

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Ridiculous.

Only to you. Maybe if you ask him nicely he might let you have the packaging......to live in.
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........now that's a new digital perspective on an old Monty Python sketch ......'Well I live in a headphone box in middle of t'motorway....you had it easy....'

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i suppose you have heard a pair of £2,000 headphones then

i paid £2k for headphones plus same again for valve headphone amp

 

I love the reaction on peoples face when they put them on for the first time

 

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Oh, I dont doubt that £2K buys some great sounding cans. It'd be criminal if they didn't peform at that price though.

And lets face it - they're headphones. And listening to music on headphones, especially these big home-only jobbies, well its a bit nerdy and sad, isn't it? 

I get listening to music on the move - it beats the tedium of listening to traffic and other humans - but the only time I've ever been bothered to plug headphones in at home is to watch a film or listen to music when the girlfriend is doing something else and I cant play it through speakers.

Because music nearly 100% always sounds better played into the air, doesn't it? Even if there's nobody there with you, it becomes a social thing. Something primitive about the transmission through space and time that is compromised by headphones, no matter how awesomely constructed. And thats without going into the stupid amounts of money you have to spend on all the extra amps to go with them.

Nah, I reckon spending any more than maybe a couple of hundred on headphones you cant take out the front door is ultimately a bit, well, pants.

Not that I want to see these little niche guys go out of business, of course. But yeah, I suspect the 'diversify or die' mantra might apply here. Money is tighter than a gnat's chuff,  and even nerds gotta keep eatin'..

 

 

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I prefer headphones. To me, headphone listening compared to speaker listening is like a good mind drug compared to a drug that affects the body mostly. There's really no comparison.

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Because music nearly 100% always sounds better played into the air, doesn't it? Even if there's nobody there with you, it becomes a social thing. Something primitive about the transmission through space and time that is compromised by headphones, no matter how awesomely constructed. And thats without going into the stupid amounts of money you have to spend on all the extra amps to go with them.

Sometimes circumstances dictate that headphones is the only option - hotel rooms, oil rigs, boats etc.

If you can't lie in bed with your woman listening to "real" speakers, lying in bed with headphones on having just smoked a fat one is a pretty good alternative.

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It is really an interesting discussion. BUT I don't think there is any definite conclusion as circumstances are totally different people from people.  One may love to use headphones while others like to use speakers.  One might think it is not justified to spend a lot of money on unnecessary goods but other might have different thinking.  Whether something is cheap, value for money or expensive are one's own preference and decision.  For me I love to use both headphones and speakers.  HD800 or LCD3S are afforable to me and owning them will certainly make me happy.  As long as I am happy I think the money is well spent.  Well whether you agree with me or not is neither here nor there.  That is how I see life  Smile  I do work hard and buy something to reward myself afterwards.

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Is it interesting.....I would be inclined to use the word annoying.

What business is it of someone to tell you how much to spend on headphones, especially when they have obviously never heard a high end pair.

What business is it to them how you listen to music, whether it be speakers, headphones or both. Sure they are allowed an opinion but, as your asking where to buy a certain pair of cans I'm guessing your mind is already made up.

What right do they have to start insulting you and calling you a nerd just because of their own jealousy as they haven't currently got a pot to pee in.

As I said annoying not interesting, but do let us know what you thing of the LCD-3s when you get them that will be interesting.

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Is it interesting.....I would be inclined to use the word annoying.

What business is it of someone to tell you how much to spend on headphones, especially when they have obviously never heard a high end pair.

What business is it to them how you listen to music, whether it be speakers, headphones or both. Sure they are allowed an opinion but, as your asking where to buy a certain pair of cans I'm guessing your mind is already made up.

What right do they have to start insulting you and calling you a nerd just because of their own jealousy as they haven't currently got a pot to pee in.

As I said annoying not interesting, but do let us know what you thing of the LCD-3s when you get them that will be interesting.

I am always open minded and views expressed in this forum will not annoy me.  Everyone can express their views freely.  As you said I can also sense elements of jealousy in the discussion.  I will not take them seriously.

Back to LCD-3S TBH I have never auditioned one before and I just hear from the reviews that some said 3S is better than HD800 while others mentioned they are not much better than 2S.  Nevertheless I have already requested my friend to buy me one from the US during his business trip in December.  Anyway if I don't like the sound signature afterall I will sell it out in the Bay.

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Inter_Voice wrote:

eggontoast wrote:

Is it interesting.....I would be inclined to use the word annoying.

What business is it of someone to tell you how much to spend on headphones, especially when they have obviously never heard a high end pair.

What business is it to them how you listen to music, whether it be speakers, headphones or both. Sure they are allowed an opinion but, as your asking where to buy a certain pair of cans I'm guessing your mind is already made up.

What right do they have to start insulting you and calling you a nerd just because of their own jealousy as they haven't currently got a pot to pee in.

As I said annoying not interesting, but do let us know what you thing of the LCD-3s when you get them that will be interesting.

I am always open minded and views expressed in this forum will not annoy me.  Everyone can express their views freely.  As you said I can also sense elements of jealousy in the discussion.  I will not take them seriously.

Back to LCD-3S TBH I have never auditioned one before and I just hear from the reviews that some said 3S is better than HD800 while others mentioned they are not much better than 2S.  Nevertheless I have already requested my friend to buy me one from the US during his business trip in December.  Anyway if I don't like the sound signature afterall I will sell it out in the Bay.

 

I'd be interested to hear what you think of them when you get them.

 

If you end up selling them I doubt you would lose anything with the price difference between UK and US....you may even make a bit  Laughing

 

Interesting point between the UK and US prices though.......I was looking at a pair of 1964 Ears Custom IEMs yesterday. In the UK they retail for about £450.00 if you buy direct from them in the USA they would cost you £300.00. Even with Import tax you are better off. 

Bloody Tax Man!!!

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