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This is yet another area which has moved on leaps & bounds in recent times. Humax, Technomate, Hauppauge, TechniSat & probably others all appear to have full on HD PVRs which are not limited to domestic Freesat channels. Does anyone have experience of these &/or done any comparisons? Some appear to have 2 RF inputs too. 

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i have the humax hdr1000s bought when i canceled sky,i would not go back its a fantastic bit of kit and no issues in 2 years.crucially has a better picture than my sky hd box and great sound ,this is the freesat version of the youview box,ie the epg scrolls back a week as well as forward,on demand content and control app,love it

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I had a Humax FoxsatHD (single tuner, non-recording) and it was ace.  I migrated to a Samsung SMT 7800 (I think) - which got 5 stars here as I wanted a HDR model and it was a good deal at the time.  It's just not a very nice bit of kit.  It doesn't feel as userfriendly as the Humax.  So buy a Humax!

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This is yet another area which has moved on leaps & bounds in recent times. Humax, Technomate, Hauppauge, TechniSat & probably others all appear to have full on HD PVRs which are not limited to domestic Freesat channels. Does anyone have experience of these &/or done any comparisons? Some appear to have 2 RF inputs too. 

Given the requirements of your other thread i would suggest looking at multi-tuner Linux based "Enigma 2" receiver from the likes of Vu+, Technomate or gigablue etc (avoid dreambox clones) for your main TV.

This would cover your terrestrial and multisat needs on that TV, and could also be used as "tuner server" for clients connected to the other TVs.

For clients on the remote TVs could you could use less expensive single tuner linux boxes (since you dont actually need the tuner) or an inexpensive XBMC box, like a Raspberry Pi for example. That way you only need to worry about running ethernet to these TVs.

You'd also be able to stream to phones, tablets and PCs.

Be aware though there is a fairly steep learning curve when it comes to configuring Linux receivers, though there is an abundance of guides and dedicated forums out there to help.

 

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Thanks but I'm not sure the 1000 or 1010 capture foreign channels?

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Wow, your post certainly blew my mind. Many thanks. I see that I'm going to have to some serious Googling. Both the VU+ Ultimo & the VU= Duo2 seem amazing bits of kit. The former appears to have significantly more options whilst the latter is the more modern.

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The Duo2 is a significantly better box than the ultimo IMO, for a number of reasons, not leasts its far more powerful CPU and onboard transcoding (especially handy if you intend HD streaming to phones/tablets etc)

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What an amazing machine the Duo2 appears to be. Am I correct that I can feed in to it my 3 satellite feeds + my terrestrial Freeview, record any number of them & at the same time watchdifferent channels on different TVs in different parts of the house?

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Yes if you add the hybrid dvb-c/t tuner module as its usually supplied with just the twin dvb-s2 module (though Linux boxes also support USB tuner sticks).

There is a limit to the number of channels you can simultaneously watch/record but it won't be an issue for most.

I've had 12 going before now, and probably would have done more but the box started to become a bit unresponsive/laggy

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Whilst £420-ish is not a great deal of money for what this machine provides, suppose I decided that I didn't need the PRV capability. What would you recomend then, given that it is for watching foreign channels & not just English speaking ones? We currently have 2 dishes with a total of 3 LNBs, to pick up German, Italian & French channels, as well as the British ones.

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Either a cheaper linux box like the Vu+ Solo/Solo2, or Gigablue HD 800 SE+/UE+. Or if you dont want to go down the linux route, a Technomate TM-5x02, or Blade BM7000

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Very interesting. many thanks

I have an SD technomate & I do not find it very user-friendly. Looking at the reviews of the latest ones, that has not changed. The Blade 7000s is by far the cheapest (around £150), but it is not a linux machine, does not have an ethernet connection & has no front usb connection. However, it does have blind search.

The Vu+Solo2 (like the Duo2) appears to be an amazing machine, with gigabit ethernet. It does not appear to have blind search & costs just under £300.

The Gigablue 8000 SE+ & UE+ do not appear to have gagabit ethernet & do not appear to have blind search either. Both are just under £200.

How am I doing so far?

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Very interesting. many thanks

I have an SD technomate & I do not find it very user-friendly. Looking at the reviews of the latest ones, that has not changed. The Blade 7000s is by far the cheapest (around £150), but it is not a linux machine, does not have an ethernet connection & has no front usb connection. However, it does have blind search.

 

Depending on how old your Techno is, the UI has been improved over the years. The BM7000s does have Ethernet, and is basically just a TM-5x02 in a different case and running blades f/w

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The Vu+Solo2 (like the Duo2) appears to be an amazing machine, with gigabit ethernet. It does not appear to have blind search & costs just under £300.
Don't think blind scan ever got fixed on the Solo2 unfortunately. But unless you're into feed hunting isn't really an issue TBH.

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The Gigablue 8000 SE+ & UE+ do not appear to have gagabit ethernet & do not appear to have blind search either. Both are just under £200.

No they don't, but I think they're great little boxes for the money.

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The only differences between the Gigablue 8000 SE+ & UE+ appear to be that the UE+ has a DVB-S/S2 connector, a DVB-C/T connector & a LCD display, whilst the SE+ has twin DVB-S/S2 connectors & no LCD display. Is that correct? Their prices appear to be almost identical.

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I think that I'm drifting towards the GiGaBlue HD 800 UE+ Linux Enigma 2 machine, with 1 x satellite DVB-S/S2 & 1 x hybrid DVB-C/T. Looking at (German) Youtube videos, it appears fairly straighforward fitting extra DVB-S/S2 sockets. (I would prefer the Vu+ Duo2 but I cannot justify it.) The only downside for me is that it appears to come with a continental plug, with an adaptor for a British 13 amp plug. I see no reason why I cannot cut off the continental one & put on my own British one?

I think that it is cheaper to buy my own 1TB HDD & fit it myself. It's not clear whether I should buy a 2.5 disc or a 3.5 disc for this machine. Does anyone have any views, please?

One can buy 4GB, 8GB or 16GB Flash drive with it. I think that 4GB should be sufficient. Does anyone have any views, please?

There are then several GigaBlue Firmware options: Official Factory (OpenMips); OpenMips (Nightly build); or OpenATV (Nightly build). Again, does anyone have any views, please?

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I think that I'm drifting towards the GiGaBlue HD 800 UE+ Linux Enigma 2 machine, with 1 x satellite DVB-S/S2 & 1 x hybrid DVB-C/T. Looking at (German) Youtube videos, it appears fairly straighforward fitting extra DVB-S/S2 sockets. (I would prefer the Vu+ Duo2 but I cannot justify it.) The only downside for me is that it appears to come with a continental plug, with an adaptor for a British 13 amp plug. I see no reason why I cannot cut off the continental one & put on my own British one?

You can't cut the plug off, they're DC and come with a 'wall wart'. You could probably source an alternative though.

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I think that it is cheaper to buy my own 1TB HDD & fit it myself. It's not clear whether I should buy a 2.5 disc or a 3.5 disc for this machine. Does anyone have any views, please?

The HD 800SE/UE/+ are 'USB PVRs' I.e they don't take an internal drive, you just use an external USB drive.

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One can buy 4GB, 8GB or 16GB Flash drive with it. I think that 4GB should be sufficient. Does anyone have any views, please?

Doesn't really matter since you'll only really be using it for flashing images (firmware) or storing EPG data.

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There are then several GigaBlue Firmware options: Official Factory (OpenMips); OpenMips (Nightly build); or OpenATV (Nightly build). Again, does anyone have any views, please?

Its personal preference, and you'll probably end up trying most, but i'd probably start out with openvix as its one of the easier to setup/configure if your new to Linux boxes.

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