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neutron 2.1 dac

I've recently bought a Sonus ZP90 and are currently saving to purchase avi Neutron 5 2.1
unsure how good the dac in the Neutron sub is, would i be making a massive difference to the sound by adding a dac to the set up, say Arcam's r-DAC
would the ADM9.1t be a better option would it sound better than a Neutron 2 2.1 plus r-DAC set up?

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RE: neutron 2.1 dac

From what I know of the Neutron 5.2.1 system, the built-in DAC is excellent and would not require an additional one.

Obviously a pair of ADM9Ts would cost more (£900 more?) if you required their matching active sub. (I'm assuming you would as you asked about the N5 2.1 system with sub as opposed to just the N5s on their own.)

So it would be essential to listen to both systems and decide if the extra is worth it to you.

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RE: neutron 2.1 dac

Thanks Chebby the ADM9T's are a little bit outside my budget, so good to know the Neutron's sub has a decent Dac, i'll probably end up buying the speakers first then follow up with the sub when funds allow.

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RE: neutron 2.1 dac

Karl, if you're after a Neutron 5 based system, you might not want to hang about.  I might be wrong, but I think AVI have stopped producing the Neutrons.  Probably worth checking with AVI on stock levels and current prices?

 

BTW, I've got Neutron 5s (no sub) and an ADM9.1 + sub based system (see my system thread) and I think both are excellent.

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RE: neutron 2.1 dac

thanks winter, i sent them a mail and there selling off whats left so i got the N5s and the sub for £900 i hadnt saved up all the cash so it had to be a credit card job! but given the saving thought it was worth getting in to debt for!

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That's a real bargain, I bet you'll really pleased with them!  Make sure you post a review and some pics Smile

 

 

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Hi Karl Smile

The N5 2.1 is a fantastic system, I'm sure you'll be very happy with it. You get so much for your £900, it's without a doubt the best value hifi system that I've ever heard. If you wanted to put together a traditional seperates hifi system you'd need to spend at least £2-3K to get this kind of sound quality.

 

Out of interest what's your old hifi system that it's replacing?

Have you ever heard an accurate and uncoloured hifi before?

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steve_1979 wrote:
If you wanted to put together a traditional seperates hifi system you'd need to spend at least £2-3K to get this kind of sound quality...

Have you ever heard an accurate and uncoloured hifi before?

Ah, another couple of chapters from the gospel according to AVI. Come on, fella! Smile

Have you head many systems between £2-3k? There's quite a difference in price there. I guess your last system was around that mark?

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When comparing them to conventional seperates hifi systems £2-3K is honestly not an exageration, if anything I was being conservative.

I'm not saying that nothing can compare with AVI though, I've heard several £1.5-2K active monitor systems (inc. a DAC/pre-amp controller) in pro-audio shops that would easily give my Neutrons's a run for their money in terms of sound quality.

AVI's accurate and uncoloured sound isn't for everyone and the amount treble detail may even come as a shock at first if you're used to a conventional hifi. If you like a warmer sound, exagerated mid-bass or an over bright treble then the AVI's won't be for you. If you prefer a natural and realistic sound without any harshness then AVI speakers should be at the top of you audition list.

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bigblue235 wrote:

Ah, another couple of chapters from the gospel according to AVI. Come on, fella! Smile

Have you head many systems between £2-3k? There's quite a difference in price there. I guess your last system was around that mark?

 

I have, check out 'my system' thread here :  http://www.whathifi.com/forum/your-system/evolution-of-my-system  Smile

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steve_1979 wrote:
When comparing them to conventional seperates hifi systems £2-3K is honestly not an exageration, if anything I was being conservative.

My point was that there's quite a difference between a 2k and 3k system If you think it sounds like a 3k system why not just say 3k? What 3k systems have you compared it to?

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AVI's accurate and uncoloured sound isn't for everyone and the amount treble detail may even come as a shock at first if you're used to a conventional hifi. If you like a warmer sound, exagerated mid-bass or an over bright treble then the AVI's won't be for you. If you prefer a natural and realistic sound without any harshness then AVI speakers should be at the top of you audition list.

Again, that just sounds like something out of a brochure. Or something that someone who's trying to 'convert' someone would say! Why is always AVI people are describing when they make comments like that? I don't go on HDD/AVI forums, I presume you do from the comments on that other thread, but is that how everyone speaks over there or something? Smile

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I have, check out 'my system' thread here :  http://www.whathifi.com/forum/your-system/evolution-of-my-system  :)

Excellent! I shall go read all of that thread. Hopefully a 'normal' description will help me feel that if I were to buy AVI I wouldn't be part of a cult Smile 

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bigblue235 wrote:
Excellent! I shall go read all of that thread. Hopefully a 'normal' description will help me feel that if I were to buy AVI I wouldn't be part of a cult Smile

As unlikely as it might seem, there are some AVI users who are not Borg.

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bigblue235 wrote:

Excellent! I shall go read all of that thread. Hopefully a 'normal' description will help me feel that if I were to buy AVI I wouldn't be part of a cult Smile 

Does this write up help, bigblue235?

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/spendor-sa1-avi-adm-91t

 

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Thanks, igglebert, that's an interesting read. Much appreciated! While I'm on those forums I may as well have a look around. I see a few familiar names.

Sorry for going OT, OP. I'll open another thread if I have any more questions!

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RE: neutron 2.1 dac

bigblue235 wrote:
My point was that there's quite a difference between a 2k and 3k system If you think it sounds like a 3k system why not just say 3k?

Fair point. I suppose what I was trying to say is that you'd need to spend a minimum of £2K to find something to match the N5 2.1 but it could also give most £3K systems a run for their money too.

 

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What 3k systems have you compared it to?.

I've heard lots of different systems at lots of different prices. Naim, Cyrus, Marantz, B&W, Monitor Audio, Acoustic Energy. The list could go on and on...

 

bigblue235 wrote:
that just sounds like something out of a brochure. Or something that someone who's trying to 'convert' someone would say! Why is always AVI people are describing when they make comments like that?

Hehe, yeah I can see what you mean. It does read like a brochure. Smile  

But that is exactly how they sound though - natural, uncoloured and very detailed (similar to ATC). It's definitely not a sound that will suit everybodys tastes. There are many people who prefer hifi's that sound warm or bright or have an exagerated mid-bass hump. Each to their own.

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