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RE: NAS upgrade question

bigboss wrote:

1) There will be a lot of duplicates as music is coming from 2 laptops. Any way of getting rid of the duplicates?

If they are exact duplicates then copy them all into one folder and any copies will overwrite each other.  Then for a final check create a new iTunes library and import all the songs from the new combined folder and then ask Itunes to show just the duplicates.

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Backing up an entire NAS is generally a non-starter. There is too much data and it will take too long.

Yet raid only protects against disc failures - not the entire NAS failing.

 

A solution is to have 2 identical NAS.

Then if one NAS completely fails you can take the discs out of the broken NAS and put them in the other NAS, allowing you to retrieve your data.

 

 

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RE: NAS upgrade question

AnotherJoe wrote:

Backing up an entire NAS is generally a non-starter. There is too much data and it will take too long.

Yet raid only protects against disc failures - not the entire NAS failing.

 

A solution is to have 2 identical NAS.

Then if one NAS completely fails you can take the discs out of the broken NAS and put them in the other NAS, allowing you to retrieve your data.

Well, the entire Synology NAS will only have about 200GB data to begin with. So backing up to an external hard drive shouldn't be a problem. It doesn't affect me how much ever time it takes. Of course, RAID doesn't protect from entire NAS failing, hence the idea to back up to an external hard drive.

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RE: NAS upgrade question

Xanderzdad wrote:

bigboss wrote:

1) There will be a lot of duplicates as music is coming from 2 laptops. Any way of getting rid of the duplicates?

If they are exact duplicates then copy them all into one folder and any copies will overwrite each other.  Then for a final check create a new iTunes library and import all the songs from the new combined folder and then ask Itunes to show just the duplicates.

Thanks! I'll give it a go. beauty, eh

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RE: NAS upgrade question

AnotherJoe wrote:

Backing up an entire NAS is generally a non-starter. There is too much data and it will take too long.

This is a mad statement. How long is too long?! Anything and everything can (and should) be backed up. You might have to find the right solution to do it, but it's always possible. Certainly a 2 TB NAS isn't going to present too much of an issue.

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A solution is to have 2 identical NAS.
Then if one NAS completely fails you can take the discs out of the broken NAS and put them in the other NAS, allowing you to retrieve your data.

AnotherJoe wrote:

A solution is to have 2 identical NAS.

Then if one NAS completely fails you can take the discs out of the broken NAS and put them in the other NAS, allowing you to retrieve your data.

It's a solution, but an expensive solution. For most home setups, one or two USB disks will do the job for a significantly lower cost. Unless you had to have your data back up and running quickly (i.e. a few minutes instead of a few hours), but very few home users are that reliant on their music collection.

 

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Well, QNAP TS-412 with four 3TB WD Reds took about two hours to initialise and set up in RAID 6. Now just a matter of copying some 2TB of music content over – current estimat from MuCommander is 25 days Surprised

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Andrew Everard wrote:

Well, QNAP TS-412 with four 3TB WD Reds took about two hours to initialise and set up in RAID 6. Now just a matter of copying some 2TB of music content over – current estimat from MuCommander is 25 days Surprised

Eek - something wrong there! Even at 100 Mbps, 2 TB should take about 2 days. Move up to Gigabit and it goes down to about 5 hours...

 

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bigboss wrote:

I want to transfer all music. & videos to Synology from Windows 7 as well as MacBook. Few questions:

1) There will be a lot of duplicates as music is coming from 2 laptops. Any way of getting rid of the duplicates?

2) How do I wirelessly transfer music from the MacBook? Synology software is installed in Windows 7 laptop.

3) Will digital copies of movies (redeemed on iTunes) play if I transfer them onto the Synology?

How are they all stored? If all in iTunes, I'd say best would be to merge them into one iTunes Library stored on the NAS. Probably easiest way would be just to copy one of the iTunes libraries to the NAS, then merge the other into this (see the WHF video on getting iTunes to a NAS).

Once you've done this, any movies included in iTunes should work just as they did when they were stored locally.

 

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RE: NAS upgrade question

professorhat wrote:
Eek - something wrong there! Even at 100 Mbps, 2 TB should take about 2 days. Move up to Gigabit and it goes down to about 5 hours...

Not concerned - it'll just chug and the time will reduce. Direct connection via the same gigabit switch - should be fine...

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RE: NAS upgrade question

professorhat wrote:

bigboss wrote:

I want to transfer all music. & videos to Synology from Windows 7 as well as MacBook. Few questions:

1) There will be a lot of duplicates as music is coming from 2 laptops. Any way of getting rid of the duplicates?

2) How do I wirelessly transfer music from the MacBook? Synology software is installed in Windows 7 laptop.

3) Will digital copies of movies (redeemed on iTunes) play if I transfer them onto the Synology?

How are they all stored? If all in iTunes, I'd say best would be to merge them into one iTunes Library stored on the NAS. Probably easiest way would be just to copy one of the iTunes libraries to the NAS, then merge the other into this (see the WHF video on getting iTunes to a NAS).

Once you've done this, any movies included in iTunes should work just as they did when they were stored locally.

 

Thanks! In the process of copying my iTunes library onto NAS now. Once done, will then copy iTunes from MacBook in the morning & merge into this.

I was hoping to have movies in a separate shared folder. Anyway, will see once copying is done.

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Andrew Everard wrote:

Well, QNAP TS-412 with four 3TB WD Reds took about two hours to initialise and set up in RAID 6. Now just a matter of copying some 2TB of music content over – current estimat from MuCommander is 25 days Surprised

Shock

I wonder why mine with just 2 X 2TB drives took 10 hours, is it because I chose Synology Hybrid RAID puzzled

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RE: NAS upgrade question

party time!

Finished transferring music, videos & pictures from my Vaio. Taking a break before I repeat the marathon on MacBook.

I then jail broke my Apple TV2 using Firecore (as my PS3 wouldn't recognise .avi files).

I can now watch movies stored on my Synology through my Apple TV! It even automatically downloads metadata for each film, resulting in beautiful artwork & explanation of the films!  cheer

Thanks Paul Hobbs, for the tip regarding Firecore!

 

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RE: NAS upgrade question

Andrew Everard wrote:

Well, QNAP TS-412 with four 3TB WD Reds took about two hours to initialise and set up in RAID 6. Now just a matter of copying some 2TB of music content over – current estimat from MuCommander is 25 days Surprised

 

Curious as to why you've decided on RAID 6?

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RE: NAS upgrade question

I managed to get some movies play on PS3, but not all. The Apple TV is connected to my bedroom TV. This brings me to another dilemma. How do I get all the videos play on my Kuro in the lounge? My AV receiver has only 4 HDMI inputs, & I have no intentions to add an HDMI splitter. I already have PS3, Sky HD, blu ray player & .......ooh, looks like I may have an empty HDMI slot! Let me check...  good job

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Yes! I have an empty HDMI slot!  cheer

Now which media streamer should I buy  puzzled

Time to create a new thread!

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