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PS3 or Dedicated Blu-Ray Player

Hi,

I have Epson 6000 projector and a samsung 46'" TV in my Home cinema setup.

Currently I have PS3 FAT as BD player and it doesn't bitstream the HD Audio to my receiver so I am looking to upgrade.

Wondering if a dedicated BD player is better than PS3.

From sound point of view I want to bitstream it to AV so BD player is not much involved in sound.

For Video I have heard PS3 is as good as any other Mid range BD player ( cost up to GBP 400).

I have Lovefilm and Netflix subscription but that I can still run on my old PS3 even if I need to go for a dedicated BD player.

Please help to decide.

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RE: PS3 or Dedicated Blu-Ray Player

Set the ps3 to lpcm and it will be outputting lossless hd sound. The only difference is u get the lpcm light on ur amp rather than dtshd/dolbyhd

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Hi Joe,

Thanks for your reply, yes I am using LPCM but problem is decodes the HD audio and I loose quality. Also sometime the sound doesn't comes from right speakers if I use lovefilm etc, sometime it runs only in stero mode.

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The sound from my ps3 sounds exactly the same as from my 3313 - except for a slight differnce in output level. have u tried setting the sound to hdmi manually on the ps3 and making sure all the boxes are ticked?

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You can't beat a good Blu-ray player.   Wink

Home cinema system: Panasonic 50VT65 (THX calibrated), Pioneer Bdp-lx71, Pioneer Vsx-lx70, B&W FPM Series, B&W PV1.

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gel wrote:

You can't beat a good Blu-ray player.   Wink

 

A sharper image, a cleaner image, better quality image, better sound and better motion were the advantages of my Pioneer against a PS3.

Home cinema system: Panasonic 50VT65 (THX calibrated), Pioneer Bdp-lx71, Pioneer Vsx-lx70, B&W FPM Series, B&W PV1.

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Hi RD

I changed from my fat PS3 to the Denon DBP-2012 blu-ray player earlier in the year and the difference was incredible.

There was an improvement in picture quality, but the biggest surprise was the sound, so much more detail.

I now know what they mean by HD master audio.

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This always surprises me.

My fat ps3 sounds exactly the same as my Denon-3313 when playing BDs, which is exactly what I would expect as long as you have the correct settings (LPCM, and all LPCM boxes ticked).

 

As all BD Players use the same HD codecs I would expect them to all sound the same. After all, you are just receiving a stream, and applying an encoding against it. If the output from blu-ray players was not lossless they would not be allowed to have the logos DolbyTrueHD, DTS-HD MA etc on them

 

(I like to use the opening sequence of Day After Tommorow - where the ice cracks to check the sound).

 

The only drawbacks for me with the PS3 are the noise from the fan, and it draws about 170W in power

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Hi AnotherJoe

I understand what you are saying, HD sound is HD sound regardless of how its delivered, and before I decided to upgrade to the Denon I believed the same thing, but I can only report what I am hearing and believe me I am hearing a big difference.

So much so that my wife and myself stayed up for hours playing different sections of our blu-ray collection being constantly blown away by the sound.

 

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dav1967 wrote:

Hi AnotherJoe

I understand what you are saying, HD sound is HD sound regardless of how its delivered, and before I decided to upgrade to the Denon I believed the same thing, but I can only report what I am hearing and believe me I am hearing a big difference.

So much so that my wife and myself stayed up for hours playing different sections of our blu-ray collection being constantly blown away by the sound.

 

 

Totally agree.  And for those who are not hearing a difference you should buy yourself a better system!   Smile

Home cinema system: Panasonic 50VT65 (THX calibrated), Pioneer Bdp-lx71, Pioneer Vsx-lx70, B&W FPM Series, B&W PV1.

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Totally agree.  And for those who are not hearing a difference you should buy yourself a better system!   Smile

 

Thanks but I think my system is good enough for now :rockout:

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Having tested the PS3, Denon 2500BT & Panasonic BD60 on my 50-inch Kuro, I found no difference in blu ray picture quality. Difficult to comment on sound, but PS3 fan noise was one of the reasons for me to upgrade.

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RE: PS3 or Dedicated Blu-Ray Player

Check every blu ray player review on AV forums, & you will find something similar to this:

A well mastered and transferred Blu-ray will look excellent without any help from backdoor processing and it’s perhaps ironic we can almost best rely on a budget player to deliver the information unfettered. More expensive players tend to have more options for image manipulation and the processing grunt required to do so.

The blu ray player should faithfully reproduce what's on the disc, & not add any processing to it.

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RD wrote:

Hi,

I have Epson 6000 projector and a samsung 46'" TV in my Home cinema setup.

Currently I have PS3 FAT as BD player and it doesn't bitstream the HD Audio to my receiver so I am looking to upgrade.

Wondering if a dedicated BD player is better than PS3.

From sound point of view I want to bitstream it to AV so BD player is not much involved in sound.

For Video I have heard PS3 is as good as any other Mid range BD player ( cost up to GBP 400).

I have Lovefilm and Netflix subscription but that I can still run on my old PS3 even if I need to go for a dedicated BD player.

Please help to decide.

My understanding from your question is that you want a player which can bitstream HD audio. Any budget or mid range blu ray player will satisfy your requirements. Look at Sony S390 / S490 / S790 & Panasonic 220 / 320 / 500.

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Some Blu-ray players show more grain than others.  I am not a fan of a grainy picture.

Home cinema system: Panasonic 50VT65 (THX calibrated), Pioneer Bdp-lx71, Pioneer Vsx-lx70, B&W FPM Series, B&W PV1.

Gadgets: iPad 4 and iPhone 4s.  Headphones: B&O H6.  Dab radio: Roberts Dreamtime.

 

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RE: PS3 or Dedicated Blu-Ray Player

Check every blu ray player review on AV forums, & you will find something similar to this:

A well mastered and transferred Blu-ray will look excellent without any help from backdoor processing and it’s perhaps ironic we can almost best rely on a budget player to deliver the information unfettered. More expensive players tend to have more options for image manipulation and the processing grunt required to do so.

The blu ray player should faithfully reproduce what's on the disc, & not add any processing to it.

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