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RE: PS3 or Dedicated Blu-Ray Player

RD wrote:

Update:

I have got Denon DBT-3313UD and hookep up to my setup.

Not able to feel difference in picuture quality. May because its limitation of Projector, will try to give a close look on TV.

I ran Spirder Man from MAC ( digital copy ), PS3 Fat and DBT-3313UD.

PS3 Fat - Sound output dobly digital

MAC - Sound output dobly digital, slightly better or same as PS3

DBT-3313UD - Denon shows me status True HD sound and there is difference in sound. ~ 10% better sound. Also I ran Netflix on Denon and sound was better than PS3 , ( MAC/PC only does sterio for netflix so no comparision).

Now I am in dielemma if I should try sony BDP 790 as well for comparision.

 

Why are you using optical for the fat PS3 ? - that wont give u HD sound.

 

To hear the difference between DD/DTS and Dolby True/DTS HD swap between the  following....

Fat PS3 hdmi to amp and bitstream selected - DD/DTS  sound

Fat PS3 hdmi to amp and LPCM selected - lossless DolbyTrue/DTS HD sound

 

 

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Update:-

As my PS3 FAT do not send Bitstream to AV I was not getting TrueHD on my Denon 4520.

I borrowed a PS3 Super Slim and it is able to send TrueHD sound to Denon4520, Gues what there is no differene in sound between Denon 3313 and PS3 Slim, 4 of us were listening and 2 feels that PS3 sounds better.

So I am sending my 3313 back to dealer.

What I feel the difference between expensive and budge players are.

- Expensive when paired with right partner removes jitter from sound means sound timming will be more accurate with video.

- The build quality of lens,body, drive etc.

-The circuit used on board to avoid any delay in passing signals.

-The drive itself needs to be very stable ( denon says gravity etc) I feel it is something to keep disc stable while spining.

-Load times.

-So I assume expensive ones will long last and always provides same quality.

Anyway for now I am going with Sony BDP-790 or Songy PS3 Slim ( the super slim is so cheap in build quality,).

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AnotherJoe wrote:

Why are you using optical for the fat PS3 ? - that wont give u HD sound.

 

To hear the difference between DD/DTS and Dolby True/DTS HD swap between the  following....

Fat PS3 hdmi to amp and bitstream selected - DD/DTS  sound

Fat PS3 hdmi to amp and LPCM selected - lossless DolbyTrue/DTS HD sound

  

Hi Another Joe,

I am not using optical cable but HDMI.

I am telling you the output I am getting on receiver screen.

As per my understanding we can't bitstream BD on PS3 Fat. Which setting do you recommend, I can re-run the test.

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RE: PS3 or Dedicated Blu-Ray Player

You can bitstream Dolby digital and DTS, but you can't bitstream the HD audio formats.  Joe was suggesting switching between bitstreaming standard DD and DTS, but letting the PS3 do the encode for the HD audio and transmit as LPCM

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RE: PS3 or Dedicated Blu-Ray Player

Just to be clear: The fat PS3 decodes HD audio as well. It cannot bitstream for your Denon to decode, that's why you cannot get your Denon to show DTS HD etc. But you're still getting HD audio. Select LPCM as suggested.

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Thanks, yes that's what I was using. When I ask Denon 4520 to decode it sounds better than PS3 Fat Decode.

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