Hi guys, been out of the upgrade game for a while so my question is this; Would the new oppo BDP 103D represent an upgrade over my current player the Denon 2500BT?
LIVING ROOM - Pioneer LX508D - Yamaha RXV3800 - Denon 2500BT - Sky HD - Monitor Audio 225HD LCR 180HD Surrounds - BK XLS/300 Subwoofer - Xbox 360.
BEDROOM - Panasonic TX-L32E6B - Sky HD - Some cheap sony dvd player.
Hi and welcome.
I am not sure of the Darbee element of the OPPO (D), I had the 2500BT for a long time and now own the OPPO 95.
Depending on whether or not you want / need the extra features and of course the HD audio, picture quality wise the OPPO 95 is better but not night and day.
Personally I would change from a 2500BT to an OPPO again, but maybe save some money by not buying the 103D and get the 103.
Can you demo?
AV System - Panasonic 42VT30 ¦ MA Apex 5.1- 4xA10 1xA40+ AW-12 Sub ¦ Van Damme UP LCOFC Speaker Cable ¦ Pioneer SC-LX85 ¦ OPPO 95 ¦ Mark Grant G1500HD Precision audio cable ¦ Sky+ HD(1TB) ¦ Chord Active HDMI ¦ Furutech Mains Cables ¦ Belkin PF50 mains conditioner.
Bedroom - Sony KDL-40W2000 + Archos 7 streaming from Windows Home Server 2011, Altec Lansing inAir 5000.
Dining Room - Sonos S5.
Music - HP Proliant Server running WHS 2011 ¦ streaming FLAC to Sonos ZP90 and OPPO 95 via SC-LX85.
Hi Fi - Cyrus 8 XPd QX amp ¦ Cyrus PSX-R power supply acting as Pre Amp ¦ Quad 909 Power Amp ¦ Speakers - Spendor A3 ¦ Logitech Squeezebox Touch upgrade by Fidelity Audio ¦ power supply upgrade by Mains Cables R Us ¦ Furutech Mains Cables ¦ Power Plant Premier mains regenerator.
Controlled by – iPad2 and Harmony 1100.
Agreed, 103 is a good player.
Main AV Setup: Panasonic 50VT65 TV, Pioneer Bdp-lx71, Pioneer Vsx-lx70, B&W FPM Series, B&W PV1, Optimum AV300 AV Stand, QED Silver Anniversary XT Speaker Cable & Chord Silver Plus HDMI Cables. Gadgets: iPad 4 & iPhone 4S.
Welcome to the forum.
It'd be really useful if you could let us know why you're upgrading your BDP, and give some indication of what other kit you own.
If you have a reasonably high end TV, I think you money would be better spent elsewhere. If you're simply looking for a 3D-ready player, a cheap Panasonic BDP will more than suffice. While there's some debate over whether more expensive BDPs offer better performance, any improvement would be negligible at best.
In my view, your money could be more effectively spent in one of two ways:
1. Professional calibration of your television. On a performance-per-pound basis, this is the best system upgrade available and will deliver substantially greater improvement than a new Blu-ray player
2. Upgrading other kit, such as your AVR or speakers.
Relative to the above two options, a new and quite expensive Blu-ray player becomes a false economy.
Hardware: Panasonic TX-P50VT65B (calibrated); Cambridge Audio Azur 651BD; Yamaha RX-A810; Teac PD-H600; PS3; B&W 601 & 600LCR (series 3); Q Acoustics QAV (rear)
Furniture and Accessories: BLOK Classix 3000 Oak AV Cabinet; Atacama Nexus 6 (atabite metal filled); 3D3 A1112
Thanks for the warm welcome, I was looking at AV cabinets for my kit because we have just moved into our new house and I'm planning a floating wall for our front room. Whilst searching i clicked on the Oppo ad on a website and had a read, sounds like a decent bit of kit but did'nt want to spend that much if I was'nt going to notice much difference in quality. Having been out of the loop for several years ( spending all my time and money on making and paying for babies!!) I just thought I'd pick some brains on here!
I'm in agreement with Strapped For Cash, spending money on the right speakers, amps and tvs can make a big difference, blu ray players can't.
I have owned expensive and budget blu ray players, and I am yet to notice a difference between the picture or sound quality when watching a blu ray disc. I think expensive players can upscale DVDs to a higher standard, but again, it's not a night and day difference.
The build quality was better on my more expensive player, but is that enough reason to spend loads of money and a new blu ray player?
LOUNGE: Panasonic TX-P50GT50 (is poorly) / Panasonic DMP-BDT120 / Yamaha RX-A2020 / Dali Zensor 3 (front) / Dali Zensor Vokal (centre) / Mordaunt Short MS20i Pearl Edition (rear) / Q Acoustics1000Si (sub) / Roksan Radius 5.2 (is poorly) / Ortofon Super OM20 Cartridge / Sky HD / WD My Book Live 2TB / Seagate Expansion 2TB / Nintendo Wii / Tacima CS-929
BEDROOM: Samsung LE32C450 / Sony BDP-S360 / Echostar HDS-600RS / Netgear WNCE2001
Looking at your kit list, your TV isn't 3D ready. I can therefore see no need to upgrade your BDP at present.
I used to own the 2500 and it's bomb-proof. You won't find better build quality on a new machine, or notice any worthwhile improvment in sound and picture performance.
The 2500's disc loading times are a little slow, though this never bothered me particularly. (I can wait that extra 20 seconds!) As long as you're not having difficulties playing some discs due to firmware, I think you should stick with what is a genuinely excellent player.
thanks for the replies, well i guess I'll keep my hard earned firmly in my pocket then. Do you think it's possible to get an older TV like mine calibrated? Might be worth giving that a whirl once everything is up and running, I have to say my kit still puts a big grin on my face when i crank up something like the TRANSFORMERS bluray, I was just thinking that with how quickly technology moves these days my big ol' player might be a bit of a dinosaur now!
Here's the calibration section of the HDTV Test review of your TV:
Out of the box, the review sample performed very accurately, though televisions drift over time and yours will likely be less accurate now than when you bought it.
The 508D has less extensive calibration controls than many newer televisions, though calibration should improve the picture. Whether it's possible to achieve a reference performance, I don't know. You should be able to get close.
It's a borderline case in my view. I'd suggest this is a better investment than a new BDP. Whether it's worth it overall is a tough call. You'd lose nothing by chatting to a professional calibrator and getting their opinion.
To add to the above, the age of your TV is also a factor. It's now 6-7 years old, so you'll of course need to consider whether you'll get sufficient future use out of it to justify the cost of calibration. I'm not sure I'd throw down £200-300 in your case.
Your tv was exactly the same model as I had, and it's on record here, that I bitterly regret selling it.
I found some great settings for my LX508D on the net, which I used, but I'm struggling to find them now.
I'll post them here if I can locate them.
8 G D65 HDMI Settings.txt
I'm pretty sure these are the settings I used, hopefully the link will work.
Ok, so basically stick with what I've got for now until my TV goes bang, I haven't got a problem with that at all. Let's pretend that my kit is your kit, what would you be looking to upgrade and with what?......just a bit of fun!
You could maybe add a PS4.
Otherwise, I think you're in pretty good shape.
Is there a part of your system you feel is lacking in some way?
No not really lacking, just looking for ways to improve upon what I have. I was looking at BLOK cabinets when I saw the Oppo advert, are you happy with yours and is there a noticeable improvement in performance or do they just look lovely?! Will probably be getting one of the new consoles later in the year, not sure which one though.
Will probably be getting one of the new consoles later in the year, not sure which one though.
Have a look at the exclusive games that are coming out and base your decision around that - there's not a lot between them otherwise. Make sure to check the Indie titles coming to the PS4 as I think a number of them will actually blow away a lot of the "mainstream" releases for outright fun, and for a fraction of the price as well. Resogun is a good example of that.
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