I really struggle to see what benefit region free players offer. In the past (199 when I first purchased a DVD player there was a need. I was buying films on DVD that were being shown in the cinema.... Like Blade ) but with release dates on par with the US, is there a need?
I guess some American box sets are fancy, or perhaps you have existing US films, in that case fair enough.
By the way guys I'm almost pulling the trigger on the 103 thought long and hard about the 105, but with all my files on flac piped through my pc, I don't think I need it's CD capabilities. Unless somebody can prove CD playback on the 105 through my AV is superior to flac being piped to it
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I tried to get a demo on one today but only had 103 and wanted to hear back back
if you are streaming flac folder won't the 105 make them sound better ?
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Using the internal DAC's, yes.
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There are still some films that you can't buy in the UK. Yojimbo being one example. My colleague can probably reel off a list just of the top of his head.
Also, the US edition of The Orphanage is 7.1 whereas the UK is only 5.1.
There are reports that some movies like Jaws and Psycho in the US have a better picture, although I'm not sure if these are region locked or not - I'm just illustrating that there are still differences between US and UK releases.
As your player is a good few years old now, I'm sure you will find them an improvement, especially regarding loading times. I've never found the sharpness control to be very effective with Bluray players, but nothing up the sharpness one notch on these really sharpness up the picture - to the point that the default setting looks quite soft! There's also Contrast Enhancement, which has really improved the preceived black level on my 4 year old PJ, so along with the extra sharpness its almost like I've got a new PJ
Im now also enjoying SACD - well, the only disc I own that is SACD! Pretty impressed though, and its ability to stream ripped Blurays faultlessly and smoothly is pretty impressive too.
When we looked to take on Oppo last year, the only option for multi-region was a "solder job" board, which is something that most people would want the dealer to do. The multi-region upgrade for the new models is just a plug in module that anyone can fit, and with this upgrade being pretty cheap, it probably isn't really worth a dealer supplying and fitting - I think most people will just order the module directly and fit it themselves. So, there is unlikely to be any mention of this on our website.
thank you for getting back to me... i think i will go for the 103, the head says go for the 105, but the wallet says otherwise... not sure i would want to carry out the multi region mod though, i'm a bit useless when it comes to such things. have wanted a machine with dual hdmi outs for a while, it makes sense to me to have one handling picture & the other the sound. am looking forward to a new player & i aint even ordered it yet! =)
That's interesting about the orphanage, I never knew that. I will also try and get a hold of Jaws and compare them! I was probably too hasty in my comment earlier.
I can see the allure now and I believe The Terminator was another people complained about, in regards to picture quality.
Sounds good! I'm sure the 103 will be more than fulfilling! Dual HDMI is fascinating, I want to test that at home myself..... I'm sure David is posting me one to test as we speak >)
I have just set up my new 105 and I have to say it looks and sounds amazing. But one observation on your point of dual HDMI outputs. If you use HDMI for sound then you are taking the sound digitally and surely defeating to point of buying the oppo as you won't be using its Superior DACs. I have mine set up taking the sound out through the analog outputs connected to my amp with Chord Camelion for front and centre and Chord crimson for surrounds and sub. It sounds fantastic ! I can't see why one would buy an expensive player then take the sound to the amp digitally; am I missing something??
I too have ordered the oppo 105 and should receive it on the Thursday. I will also using the analogue outs to a naim AV2 processor which doesn't have hdmi's anyway, which was one of the main reasons why I bought the 105. I am really looking forward to what it's going to sound like against the denon 3800BD blu-ray player.
I can't see why one would buy an expensive player then take the sound to the amp digitally; am I missing something??
No you're not missing anything. If people are looking to buy this player just to connect it via HDMI to the amp, then it's a wasteful purchase. They're better served by the cheaper 103.
In fact, If using an Hdmi for connecting the blu ray player to an amp, aren't people better served by buying the Sony bdp 790 or Pioneer bdp 450 and saving even more money? I keep on reading that one blu ray player has a better picture or better sound than another, but then I read it makes no difference if you are using an Hdmi connection.
You're right that there is very little to differentiate in blu ray picture quality between different players. But there is a significant difference in DVD upscaling between players. Also, your decision is based on whether you want a universal player or not.
Thanks for that bigboss - so basically, If wanted to buy a blu- ray player mainly for Blu-rays and an audio CDs to connect to a pioneer LX 55 receiver and connect using a single HDMI cable, there would be very little difference in the picture and sound quality between a pio BDP 450 and an Oppo 103. Would this especially be the case if I send sound to the receiver as bitstream and let the the receiver do the decoding?
Its only when using analogue connectors letting the Oppo decode and upscaling DVDs when Oppo comes into its own. Is that correct?
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