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Looks like your system would be the ideal partner, and sounds like at least the Oppo 103 could sound pretty rubbish in your system.

Not really. He / she has the brilliant Pioneer LX86 to decode audio. I don't see any point in investing in a player with superior DACs. Just bitstream audio to the Pioneer. Simples! Wink

 

Thing is though when I change Blu-ray players in my system with the Pioneer LX70 amp, I clearly hear the difference between Blu-ray players 100 per cent, perhaps my amp is different somehow?  But I hear other people with different amps making the same comments.  The difference is really big between each Blu-ray players too.

Your receiver isn't upto scratch then! Wink

Seriously though, have you tried bitstreaming audio to your receiver?

 

Yep, 100 per cent it is setup right.  The amp is decoding on the front, and it was setup by a shop, it sounds amazing to be honest.   Smile

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Here is the spec on it

http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/archive/VSX-LX70/page.html

I suspect you're not giving any work to your brilliant receiver. By default, all blu ray players decode audio, unless you change the settings to bitstream it to your receiver. If you bitstream, there shouldn't be any difference to audio when changing players, as the players' DACs are not being used at all!

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Here is the spec on it

http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/archive/VSX-LX70/page.html

I suspect you're not giving any work to your brilliant receiver. By default, all blu ray players decode audio, unless you change the settings to bitstream it to your receiver. If you bitstream, there shouldn't be any difference to audio when changing players, as the players' DACs are not being used at all!

 

My Blu-ray player requires a firmware update for master audio sound, so I know for sure I am doing it right.

 

Here is the spec on the new ones

 

http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/42/98/405/SC-LX86-K/specs.html

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Here is the spec on it

http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/archive/VSX-LX70/page.html

I suspect you're not giving any work to your brilliant receiver. By default, all blu ray players decode audio, unless you change the settings to bitstream it to your receiver. If you bitstream, there shouldn't be any difference to audio when changing players, as the players' DACs are not being used at all!

 

I know I am bitstreaming because the audio soundtracks are on the front of the amp.  How do I check 100 per cent for sure?

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I'll check your player's settings when I get home tonight & will let you know. It will be in your blu ray player's sound settings. Maybe because both are Pioneer, your receiver is able ot extract information from your player. I'm not sure.

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I'll check your player's settings when I get home tonight & will let you know. It will be in your blu ray player's sound settings. Maybe because both are Pioneer, your receiver is able ot extract information from your player. I'm not sure.

 

I have heard a Denon Blu-ray player on this amp and it sounded completely different.  All I did was pull out the HDMI cable and stuck it in the next Blu-ray player.

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I'll check your player's settings when I get home tonight & will let you know. It will be in your blu ray player's sound settings. Maybe because both are Pioneer, your receiver is able ot extract information from your player. I'm not sure.

 

I have heard a Denon Blu-ray player on this amp and it sounded completely different.  All I did was pull out the HDMI cable and stuck it in the next Blu-ray player.

Definitely your Denon at work here. By default, blu ray players decode audio unless you change settings in the player.

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bigboss wrote:

I'll check your player's settings when I get home tonight & will let you know. It will be in your blu ray player's sound settings. Maybe because both are Pioneer, your receiver is able ot extract information from your player. I'm not sure.

 

I have heard a Denon Blu-ray player on this amp and it sounded completely different.  All I did was pull out the HDMI cable and stuck it in the next Blu-ray player.

Definitely your Denon at work here. By default, blu ray players decode audio unless you change settings in the player.

 

Oh yeah I think I did have to change it on that one, this is about 5 years ago now!  From memory it can out with PCM on the amp, so had to change it.  It was the Denon 2500 transport Blu-ray player.

 

One player I have played around with recently was the Pioneer LX70a, on that one I did not have to change anything, that right?  This Blu-ray player was a ex shop demo, so I guess it is possible they changed it?

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surely everyone must realise by now that what hi fi rateings are based mostly on where their advertiseing revenue is comeing from,,the oppo range of blu ray players are in mine,and most other av addicts opinions the best picture performing machines you can buy, and if you buy the 95 or new 105 the cd performance will equal any cd player under 1500 pound.  my friend once bought a pioneer blu ray player based on a what hi fi review that cost him 400.00, he tested it next to my oppo and was very dissapointed with the results,and we later found out the pioneer was really just a rebadged sharp, i NEVER EVER buy just from a review, especially a what hi fi review,make youre own decisions,

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surely everyone must realise by now that what hi fi rateings are based mostly on where their advertiseing revenue is comeing from

Same old, same old. I suppose you have proof for this litigious statement? Or a phone number for a good solicitor specialising in libel?

 

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my friend once bought a pioneer blu ray player based on a what hi fi review that cost him 400.00, he tested it next to my oppo and was very dissapointed with the results,and we later found out the pioneer was really just a rebadged sharp,

FFS! The 400 quid Pioneer is NOT a rebadged Sharp! IIRC the cheapest Pioneer BDP available in the US WAS a rebadged Sharp but that player was never sold in this country!

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Why did you wait over 5 years - since registering - to make your first post? 

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Why did you wait over 5 years - since registering - to make your first post? 

Just couldn't take it any more I guess...

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Very silly to think WHM base their test results on products that they receive income from. They would be straight up the court house steps by trading standards if they mis represented products like this. 

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pugster wrote:
my friend once bought a pioneer blu ray player based on a what hi fi review that cost him 400.00, he tested it next to my oppo and was very dissapointed with the results,and we later found out the pioneer was really just a rebadged sharp,

FFS! The 400 quid Pioneer is NOT a rebadged Sharp! IIRC the cheapest Pioneer BDP available in the US WAS a rebadged Sharp but that player was never sold in this country!

Don't you love the way internet myths and legends shape-shift to suit the argument being made at any given point?  ROFL

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