My lx71 has given up the ghost and my panasonic 500 is pants! Which 1 would you choose, denon or marantz?
Living room: Panasonic TX-P50VT65B (calibrated), Sky HD 1TB, Denon 3313UD, Denon 2113 AVR, Focal Chorus 716 5.1 & def tech rears, iPad mini, iPhone 5s, Harmony Touch
Bedroom: Panasonic TH-46PZ85B plasma, Sky HD, Cambridge Audio DVD 57.
The denon is popular amongst some but I did not like it and sold mine. Issues such as poor streaming, menu system that did not work properly and too frequently not being able to access netflix made it bad in practice. Of course the picture was very good but then it is on the 50 quid player in my bedroom.
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I notice you have the 450, what are your thoughts on this player. My 71 was a top player and would prefer another pioneer but the marantz and denon seem to be the popular choice...
Both Denon & Marantz are made by the same manufacturer and share parts. Performance will be similar. Just buy what's cheaper. Superfi are doing a 10% discount at the moment (check gel's post in hit deals section, which will bring the Marantz down to £450.
Pioneer 450 is an excellent player as well.
Thanks big boss :beer:
The newer Pioneers are not all that - your BDT500 should be giving you great pic and sound.
Make sure you have it setup properly - disabling analogue audio and secondary audio - and selecting the correct video settings - chroma 444 and chroma upsampling to advanced.
Its a better player than the 71.
I think the Marantz is better than both of them - not as sharp as the BDT500 but I think more organic looking - but thats not factoring in that all BD's are the same....... just my opinion
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The Pioneer is a good player with dual HDMI outs and SACD support. Its a transport so no MC analogue. Unusually you miss the first three or four seconds of all material and also there is a nasty gurgling noise on booting it up. But build qualiy is good enough for the price. Its superior to the Denon in every way other than build and silence, though that is not to suggest the Pioneer is a loud player in anyway.
I also used to have a BDT500 and it was a good player for me personally bar the lack of SACD support.
I'd just buy the cheapest one that has the features and build that you require. PQ they are all much of a muchness and paying five hundred or a grand is not going to improve your bluray experience one bit. As I said the 500 quid that I paid for the Denon gave me no improvement in PQ over the 50 quid Panasonic I have in the bedroom.
I am getting tempted to buy another Blu-Ray player! Lol. No gel, no! :grin:
Home cinema system: LG 55EA980W OLED TV, Pioneer Bdp-lx71, Pioneer Vsx-lx70, B&W FPM Series, B&W PV1.
Gadgets: iPad 2 and iPhone 4s. Dab radio: Roberts Dreamtime.
With the new Panasonics TV's you will struggle to better the newer Pansonic BD PLayers - because they have the option for advanced Chroma Up Sampling which if you read up sharpens the image, not using sharpness or anything crude like that - it to do with the processing of the image coming off a 4.2.0 Bd Disc and its a clear improvement over not using it on the player.
I have only compared The BDT500 against the Maramntz 7007 on a 65VT65 on a different system to mine - but I did calibrate it to pretty much exactly the same as mine so it will lok very much the same.
Only difference HDMI Cables and his goes through a Pioneer LX83 - mine goes through the Meridian HD621.
I sit at a different disatnce - the height and angle of the screen is slightly different as well.
The Denon 3313 all day for me!!
It's by far the best quality picture I've seen & I've tried alot of players, makes me shake my head from side to side when I hear folk say "It's an Ok picture or It's good ! I'd like to see what there comparing it too???
It totally blew me away when I first saw the quality of this player, as a previous Denon 2500BT owner I never thought I could be anymore impressed, until this machine.
It's alright people judging it for It's problems with streaming etc & not being able to always connect to Netflix, but that certainly "to me" doesn't justify not having the player. I've always connected to Netflix without a problem, although I can't comment on the streaming capabilities as I don't use it for that, besides I bought a "bluray player" to watch, well, bluray's & to get the best possible Picture & sound quality for that with which is what I have achieved with the denon.
gel wrote:I am getting tempted to buy another Blu-Ray player! Lol. No gel, no! :grin:
The pioneer you have is in the A/V museum now dude
Just reinstalled the firmware on the 71 and it's back up and running. Not sure why this happened, but I'm really happy it's fixed because the 71 is a top player. I've set the 500 up correctly and it isn't as good as the 71. It might be old and slow but it has the quality....
Think I will upgrade to the 3313 when funds are available and have the 500 on ebay, so won't be long!
jase fox wrote:
gel wrote:I am getting tempted to buy another Blu-Ray player! Lol. No gel, no! :grin:Go on Gel!!The pioneer you have is in the A/V museum now dude
Series1boy wrote:Just reinstalled the firmware on the 71 and it's back up and running. Not sure why this happened, but I'm really happy it's fixed because the 71 is a top player. I've set the 500 up correctly and it isn't as good as the 71. It might be old and slow but it has the quality.... Think I will upgrade to the 3313 when funds are available and have the 500 on ebay, so won't be long!:cheers:
I am thinking about doing the same.
The 500 has just sold on ebay. Just found a 3313 for £450 at Peter Tyson .and will go nice with my 2113 amp and I can use the ipad remote app for both. Then I'll get the 71 on ebay and should pretty much get near to my money back, hopefully!
go on Gel, you know you want to...