I’m a subscriber so get the magazine before it goes on the shelves, so I have read it.
Also I was making an observation between the 2 reviews, (That they use the same video chip) not expecting anything would change on previous reviews.
Which is fair enough. I subscribe too and I read the CA review yesterday. I agree that on paper there's a discrepancy, though WHF may have awarded a four star rating because the CA is available for £200 less than the Oppo.
I was questioning where raking over the ashes of the Oppo review once more gets us? It's already the subject of one of the longest threads in forum history and we're acutely aware of how angered many were by the Oppo's rating.
I use the Plugplayer app to stream my flac music to the Oppo via its network connection. The Oppo automatically plays it (no nead to switch sources). Works a treat. Not gapless though if that is important to you. I have streamed mutlichannel flac too which work perfectly as well.
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which is £200 cheaper than the Oppo 105, so it will be interesting to see how they compare.
I think I'm right in saying that the extra £200 for the Oppo buys you a USB asynchrous DAC which is not an option with the CA? Not an issue if you have no need for it, but in my system connected to my PC and J River MC, the Sabre DAC in the Oppo is starting to sound quite special. A USB DAC of this quality would probably set you back a large part of the price of the 105, e.g. the Audiolab M-DAC uses the Sabre 9018. If you can use a good DAC for other sources in your set-up, it might make the extra £200 well worth it.
I've only had the 105 for almost a week and it's still burning in, but the USB DAC is beginning to really impress. It'll play all frequencies up to 192khz and there's talk of DSD capability in a firmware update. This is a big omission from the CA player in my opinion, although they do make their own standalone DACs, so perhaps understandable.
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See, this is what I thought would happen. A thread about a CA BDP is fast becoming an outlet for the Oppo fan club.
I didn't criticise the Oppo, but people are already getting defensive, asserting that they've got the best universal player, and explaining precisely why. There's already a dedicated thread where the Oppo appreciation society can cut loose.
Interestingly there was no mention of the video and scalar being no better than cheaper players, which considering it uses the same chip as the Oppo 103/5 (Where this was commented on) seems to indicate that either the Oppo 103 was faulty or What Hi Fi reviewing procedure is not consistent.
Since I sold my Yamaha Z7, I'd been missing the upscaling/de-interlacing of Sky TV. Plugging the HDMI output from Sky into the Oppo shows the Marvell scaler does a great job. Sky TV is so much sharper, it needed 2 or 3 days to settle down, the picture was slightly too red at first, but now colours are neutral. The picture is pin sharp and there's a 3 dimensionality to images, no reason to suspect the 752BD will be any different.
Abacus started the thread asking how the 2 would compare, so it's likely you're going to see comments about the Oppo and CA.
My opinion is they will be pretty similar in most respects, apart from the addition of a USB DAC with the 105, which if you need it makes the extra £200 worthwile, if not go for the cheaper CA.
Has the Oppo 105 been reviewed yet by What Hifi?
You're right, WHF reviewed the 103. And the original poster asked a comparative question.
I got carried away in my criticism, as I've rarely seen more fiercely voiced opinions than Oppo enthusiasts following the WHF 103 review.
Beyond that, I was concerned this thread would turn into an Oppo love-in, despite being primarily about the launch of the CA 752.
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