You have a few here that would go well with the Pioneer:
The Apex and the RX6 AV Monitor Audio Package.
I have heard the Radius 270 work well too:
Then you have B&W speakers. Buying from Sevenoaks could be a smart move, they will deliver and offer good discounts. Southampton branch is good, Epsom, and few others, if you phone around for quotes is best.
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The OP lives in East Scotland. Epsom & Southampton branches are a tad far!
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Our head office is in Southampton; Wasp, I could demo them on your behalf and hold my phone up so you can here what they sound like?
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I meant they would deliver to him. Not sure how he is going to demo or where, it is always difficult.
The Pioneer SC-lx76 might be a good move too for saving a few hundred. It is not going to sound that different to the 86 and could save you some money there. Buy your amp and speakers together for the best discounts.
Here are the numbers:
Prices and quotes will fluctuate.
Thanks for the info .looks like i will have to make the effort and get a demo somewhere .you would think if you have the budget to buy 2 grand speakers and amps it shouldnt matter what you buy they should all sound awesome , but that dosent seem to be the case .was much easier buying tvs and blu ray players.back to the drawing board.should have had this sorted by now and not bought the yamaha in the first place .its a very good piece of kit but 5.1 is the way i should have went.
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Don't get me wrong, any of the suggested brands would sound good, its a question of which ones you personally prefer as the sound signature will vary between brands of amp and speaker by a much greater degree than how picture quality will vary between BluRay players.
Yamaha and pioneer amps do sound different, as to B&W and Monitor Audio speakers, and only you can know which one will suit your personal tastes.
In any event, an hour or so sat in the listening room of a good hi-fi dealers is all part of the fun of the buying process.
I agree demos are definitely the way to go, but not always possible. At Sevenoaks you should look at knocking around 25 per cent off a speaker package.
WHF have done system builders in their mag and the Pioneer 86 got paired with the Monitor Audio Apex and the Monitor Audio RX6 AV12 package.
If you can find your way from your particular niche in the East of Scotland to Edinburgh, you could visit Daniel@theMovieRooms, he writes on this forum and you can contact him officially to see what is reasonably locally on offer. James Morrow in the Tollcross area of Edinburgh are good as well. Also consider a trip to Glasgow, but I'm not quite sure what is on offer there any more after a couple of AudioVisual outlets closed in the last few months. If all else fails you could pass by my flat in Edinburgh (mention me at theMovieRooms and at JamesMorrow), if the moderators on this forum will give contact details privately, where you could see what 5.1 (and upwards) systems sound like, with appropriate amplification. Specifically, regarding speaker packages, you could hear what my kitchen system which is based on a 9.2 receiver and Eltax Shine speakers, see this 5.0 package here http://www.son-video.com/Rayons/HomeCinema/EnceintesAV/Eltax-Shine.html This 5.0 package recently cost, including postage and currency conversion, £504 to import it from France. Note that this does not have a subwoofer - you could consider something like the Tannoy TS2.12, see one review here http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/article/tannoy-ts212-subwoofer-revi... or the SVS SB1000, see review here http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/article/svs-sb-1000-review/16008 both of which can be had for under £500, so your total speaker package would cost under £500. Lastly, if you do visit my flat, I could - and here I'm about to say something that many people will regard as anathema - show you what can be achieved WITHOUT a subwoofer IF AND ONLY IF your front speakers are large enough, and if you tell the surround-sound amplifier that you are not using a subwoofer, so that the amp send the Low Frequency Effect signal to the (large) front speakers.
Honestly, buying amps and speakers is not like buying TV's and Bluray players (where to a certain degree, a 'perfect' picture is objectively measurable and not subjective like preferences around sound signature). Appreciate it's a day out at least to do a demo, but look at it this way, how long will you likely be keeping the kit for, and how many hours are you going to spend listening to it?
Ideally I would demo before purchase too, but as it happens I've bought most of my surround-sound speakers and receivers over the last five years without a prior audition, and they all seem to work fine together. Maybe I've just been lucky!
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Thank you sir for your time ,information and links in your response to my question,I phoned James morrow today at 4 and they would be more than happy to set a few things up for me as long as I give them some notice before I come.
There's a lot of stuff rolling about in my head ,only thing I'm leaning towards is the pioneer SC-LX86 ,it does say in the review take care with speaker matching.
Like I've said tho if all websites and magazines are giving a product 5star and reference reviews etc you shouldn't really go wrong when choosing kit ,I trust what hifi but the oppo 103 3star review annoyed many of us.
The speaker thing is a real headache but I know if I push the receiver and speaker budget to the max I will end up getting a separate subwoofer so I want the 5.1 or 7.1 (7.1 may be to much for the space i have) speaker set up to include a very good sub .
Getting a electrician to install my lifx lights the week before or after Steve withers comes up to do my calibration.which eh brings me to another point once I settle on my surround sound kit anyone had a audio calibration done?
I'm fairly clued up when it comes to the video side of things but I'm just starting with audio equipment I want the best I can afford but maybe the best is packed with features I will never need to use.
If all else doesn't please me your flat invitation is mighty tempting
As I said previously, I realise that this is very much a minority view, but I would strongly suggest that if money is tight and your front speakers are large, get the very best 5.0 or 7.0 speakers that you can afford just now, and save up to add the subwoofer later.
Before would be better, and I think that Steve Withers does audio calibrations as well. Certainly if someone pays me the £1,000 that I am owed I am thinking of maybe getting him back to do an audio calibration of my parlour and kitchen systems
I just wish that I had more time to listen to the damn systems! Now, at 22:47, it's too late to make much noise.
I just wish that I had more time to listen to the damn systems! Now, at 22:51, it's too late to make much noise.
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