Have your say & ask the experts!

Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

17 replies [Last post]
Joined: 20 Oct 2010
Posts: 4722

Is there a review of the Yamaha RX-A1020 on the way please?

Anyone got one of these, and what do you think?

__________________

LOUNGE:  Panasonic TX-P50GT50 (is poorly) / Panasonic DMP-BDT120 / Yamaha RX-A2020 / Dali Zensor 3 (front) / Dali Zensor Vokal (centre) / Mordaunt Short MS20i Pearl Edition (rear) / Q Acoustics1000Si (sub) / Roksan Radius 5.2 / Ortofon Super OM20 Cartridge / Sky HD / WD My Book Live 2TB / Seagate Expansion 2TB / Nintendo Wii / Tacima CS-929 

BEDROOM:  Samsung LE32C450 / Sony BDP-S360 / Echostar HDS-600RS / Netgear WNCE2001

Joined: 17 Aug 2009
Posts: 4291
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

Hi BBB,

I haven't heard the 1020, but I can advise that my initial complaints about the 810 are no longer valid. It sounds very different from my previous Yamaha AVR, but now I've got to know the 810 and have given it a thorough run in, it sounds excellent. It's no wallflower and sounds considerably more authoritative than any other receiver I've owned. To be honest, I'm thinking my 810 would be best matched with larger speakers than my current B&W 600s. I'm guessing the 1020 would produce an even more forthright sound and might offer more power than ideal with your Q Acoustics.

On the audio side of things I'm actually pretty content now. If I could just find a TV without distracting faults, I'd be happy to leave my system alone for a good few years.

Incidentally, did you make a decision about your GT50? My replacement is only a week old and I'm wondering whether DSE is less noticeable a little further down the line? I thought this was less of an issue with the replacement, but the more I watch it, the more convinced I am that it's exactly the same as on my first set. I'm almost certain this is caused by uneven application of the AR filter, which would suggest things won't improve.

__________________

Hardware: Panasonic TX-P50VT65B (calibrated); Cambridge Audio Azur 651BD; Yamaha RX-A810; Teac PD-H600; PS3; B&W 601 & 600LCR (series 3); Q Acoustics QAV (rear)

Furniture and Accessories: BLOK Classix 3000 Oak AV Cabinet; Atacama Nexus 6 (atabite metal filled); 3D3 A1112

Joined: 20 Oct 2010
Posts: 4722
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

Thanks for the feedback Strapped.

My only concern with the 1020 was that it might just be too good for the speakers, and there's no chance of an upgrade in the speakers department anytime soon. I can still get the 1020 for £699 (the link still works), so I thought it would be a good time to upgrade the amp, especially as it's so future-proofed.

Do you think the 1020 could blow my Q Acoustics?

I've looked at the Denon AVR2113 and the Sony STRDN1030, but I'm not convinced they'll be as good as my 2400es in the SQ department, and I don't want a step down in SQ.

I could audition them, but I'd want to hear them with my speaker set-up. I might pop in to Richer Sounds and see what they have to say, and maybe set up an audition.

I've posted on the GT50 Vertical Banding this morning about my GT50 predicament. 

__________________

LOUNGE:  Panasonic TX-P50GT50 (is poorly) / Panasonic DMP-BDT120 / Yamaha RX-A2020 / Dali Zensor 3 (front) / Dali Zensor Vokal (centre) / Mordaunt Short MS20i Pearl Edition (rear) / Q Acoustics1000Si (sub) / Roksan Radius 5.2 / Ortofon Super OM20 Cartridge / Sky HD / WD My Book Live 2TB / Seagate Expansion 2TB / Nintendo Wii / Tacima CS-929 

BEDROOM:  Samsung LE32C450 / Sony BDP-S360 / Echostar HDS-600RS / Netgear WNCE2001

Joined: 17 Aug 2009
Posts: 4291
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

I can't imagine that the 1020 would blow your Q Acoustics, but I think the speakers would struggle to relay the AVR's power and weighty dynamic shifts (as a caveat, I'm basing this commentary on experience with a model one step down and from the previous year). Of course you can set your AVR to drive "small" satellite speakers, if this is a concern.

If a speaker upgrade isn't likely, you'd perhaps be spending more than necessary. I mean no disrespect to your Q Acoustics, which are absolutely top performers in their price bracket. I'm using speakers I bought 15 years ago, so I'm in no position to comment, but I think a 1020 might be more receiver than you need.

You should definitely audition; and check out an 810 at RS, if you can, as the price remains pretty compelling.

__________________

Hardware: Panasonic TX-P50VT65B (calibrated); Cambridge Audio Azur 651BD; Yamaha RX-A810; Teac PD-H600; PS3; B&W 601 & 600LCR (series 3); Q Acoustics QAV (rear)

Furniture and Accessories: BLOK Classix 3000 Oak AV Cabinet; Atacama Nexus 6 (atabite metal filled); 3D3 A1112

Joined: 20 Oct 2010
Posts: 4722
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

I think Richer Sounds will be my next port of call, and audition the 810 (my local has 2), 2113 and 1030.

As always, thanks for your input, but I'm probably more undecided than ever now. :grin:

__________________

LOUNGE:  Panasonic TX-P50GT50 (is poorly) / Panasonic DMP-BDT120 / Yamaha RX-A2020 / Dali Zensor 3 (front) / Dali Zensor Vokal (centre) / Mordaunt Short MS20i Pearl Edition (rear) / Q Acoustics1000Si (sub) / Roksan Radius 5.2 / Ortofon Super OM20 Cartridge / Sky HD / WD My Book Live 2TB / Seagate Expansion 2TB / Nintendo Wii / Tacima CS-929 

BEDROOM:  Samsung LE32C450 / Sony BDP-S360 / Echostar HDS-600RS / Netgear WNCE2001

Joined: 17 Aug 2009
Posts: 4291
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

No worries! From my perspective, it's good to compare notes with another forum member making decisions about the same (or similar) kit.  

Enjoy the auditions and let us know how you get on. Hopefully you'll have a clearer sense of what to do afterwards. 

__________________

Hardware: Panasonic TX-P50VT65B (calibrated); Cambridge Audio Azur 651BD; Yamaha RX-A810; Teac PD-H600; PS3; B&W 601 & 600LCR (series 3); Q Acoustics QAV (rear)

Furniture and Accessories: BLOK Classix 3000 Oak AV Cabinet; Atacama Nexus 6 (atabite metal filled); 3D3 A1112

dennislawz's picture
Offline
Joined: 22 Jan 2013
Posts: 2
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

hi there you may wanna chick this out you can google tranalate it i have it its great for music and home cinema at the price you can't find anything better!!

 

http://www.lydogbilde.no/test/yamaha-rx-a1020

 

http://www.testfreaks.com/a-v-receivers/yamaha-rx-a1020/

 

 

__________________

dennislawz's picture
Offline
Joined: 22 Jan 2013
Posts: 2
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

hi again btw u need to translate from danish to eng  Smile

 

 

__________________

AndyWright's picture
Offline
Joined: 24 Sep 2008
Posts: 121
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

Do you think the 1020 could blow my Q Acoustics?

 

Hi BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW,

 

I have last years model of this Receiver and running it with smaller speakers than your Q As and the sound is simply fantastic. Goes really loud as well without distortion. I wouldnt worry about any of that.  beauty, eh

 

Cheers

__________________

System- Panasonic 50 ST50, Yamaha RXA1010 Aventage AV receiver, Tannoy HTS 101 5.1, Qed Silver Anniversary XT Speaker Cable, Sony PS3 Slim, Sky+ HD, Wireworld Chroma 6 HDMI, Wii. Sony Experia Z. Acer Media PC Laptop

Joined: 20 Oct 2010
Posts: 4722
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

Thanks Dennis and Andy for the info, very helpful. 

__________________

LOUNGE:  Panasonic TX-P50GT50 (is poorly) / Panasonic DMP-BDT120 / Yamaha RX-A2020 / Dali Zensor 3 (front) / Dali Zensor Vokal (centre) / Mordaunt Short MS20i Pearl Edition (rear) / Q Acoustics1000Si (sub) / Roksan Radius 5.2 / Ortofon Super OM20 Cartridge / Sky HD / WD My Book Live 2TB / Seagate Expansion 2TB / Nintendo Wii / Tacima CS-929 

BEDROOM:  Samsung LE32C450 / Sony BDP-S360 / Echostar HDS-600RS / Netgear WNCE2001

Joined: 17 Aug 2009
Posts: 4291
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

BBB, just to update you, any initial concerns I had about the 810 have melted away. I'm now smitten with the AVR. 

I'm certain the problems I described early on were caused by YPAO auto-calibration and I achieved much better results leaving this alone. My living room is perhaps an awkward shape acoustically; and I'm wondering whether this had something to do with the poor YPAO results. Giving the AVR a little time to bed in may also have helped. In any case, following careful manual calibration, I'm now tremendously happy.

In the interests of providing a balanced view, I don't think the 810 is the best performer with music using the internal DAC. My workaround has been to hook up an excellent CDP to the AVR using analogue interconnects, which has delivered substantial gains. My system now sounds as enthralling as I could have possibly hoped, considering the relatively modest budget. 

The 1020 may offer a worthwhile step up for the price you've been quoted, though I honestly don't think you'd be disappointed with the 810. When are looking to audition shortlisted AVRs? Also, what kind of sound do your Q Acoustics produce? If they're a tad bright, the 810 (and other Aventage AVRs, based on what I've read) may not be an ideal match.

__________________

Hardware: Panasonic TX-P50VT65B (calibrated); Cambridge Audio Azur 651BD; Yamaha RX-A810; Teac PD-H600; PS3; B&W 601 & 600LCR (series 3); Q Acoustics QAV (rear)

Furniture and Accessories: BLOK Classix 3000 Oak AV Cabinet; Atacama Nexus 6 (atabite metal filled); 3D3 A1112

bigboss's picture
Offline
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
Posts: 11803
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

strapped for cash wrote:

If they're a tad bright, the 810 (and other Aventage AVRs, based on what I've read) may not be an ideal match.

Really? I thought Yamaha receivers (including the Aventage line) are a little on the warm side, & pair excellently with speakers that are a little bright.

__________________

My Home Cinema  Pioneer KRP 500A, Yamaha RX-V1900, MA Radius R225HD LCR, R90HD rears, AW12 sub, Panasonic BD60, PS3, Boxee Box, Sky HD, Boxee Box, Logitech Harmony One, Logitech PS3 Adapter, Sonos ZP90

Bedroom Samsung UE32C6510, PS3 slim white, Apple TV, Sonos S5, Sonos ZP90, Audioengine 2, Oppo OPDV971H

Miscellaneous: Synology DS212J + 2 X WD Red 2TB drives, WD 1TB NAS, Sonos ZoneBridge, BT HH3 as modem & AirPort Extreme router

Joined: 17 Aug 2009
Posts: 4291
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

This is my third Yamaha receiver and tonally it's very different from the previous two. It can indeed lean ever so slightly toward brightness.

WHF make the same observation about the 3020 Aventage in this month's mag (and I've read similar comments about Aventage AVRs elsewhere). I thought it was worth mentioning, as it's something BBB may want to listen for to determine whether it would be a concern. I already feel I've overstated any tendency toward brightness, but it's there and may bother very discriminating listeners. You're familiar with my posts, so I'm sure you know how pedantic and unreasonable I can become! At the very least I expect too much for my money.

For what it's worth, I don't think it's possible to find a better value receiver than the 810 at the current price (maybe second hand higher end kit, for those inclined to go that route, or the 1020 at the price quoted to BBB).

__________________

Hardware: Panasonic TX-P50VT65B (calibrated); Cambridge Audio Azur 651BD; Yamaha RX-A810; Teac PD-H600; PS3; B&W 601 & 600LCR (series 3); Q Acoustics QAV (rear)

Furniture and Accessories: BLOK Classix 3000 Oak AV Cabinet; Atacama Nexus 6 (atabite metal filled); 3D3 A1112

bigboss's picture
Offline
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
Posts: 11803
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

strapped for cash wrote:

At the very least I expect too much for my money.

You're only living up to your avatar!  Wink

__________________

My Home Cinema  Pioneer KRP 500A, Yamaha RX-V1900, MA Radius R225HD LCR, R90HD rears, AW12 sub, Panasonic BD60, PS3, Boxee Box, Sky HD, Boxee Box, Logitech Harmony One, Logitech PS3 Adapter, Sonos ZP90

Bedroom Samsung UE32C6510, PS3 slim white, Apple TV, Sonos S5, Sonos ZP90, Audioengine 2, Oppo OPDV971H

Miscellaneous: Synology DS212J + 2 X WD Red 2TB drives, WD 1TB NAS, Sonos ZoneBridge, BT HH3 as modem & AirPort Extreme router

Joined: 17 Aug 2009
Posts: 4291
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

bigboss wrote:

strapped for cash wrote:

At the very least I expect too much for my money.

You're only living up to your avatar!  Wink

That's a very diplomatic response, BB! excellent!

__________________

Hardware: Panasonic TX-P50VT65B (calibrated); Cambridge Audio Azur 651BD; Yamaha RX-A810; Teac PD-H600; PS3; B&W 601 & 600LCR (series 3); Q Acoustics QAV (rear)

Furniture and Accessories: BLOK Classix 3000 Oak AV Cabinet; Atacama Nexus 6 (atabite metal filled); 3D3 A1112

Joined: 20 Oct 2010
Posts: 4722
RE: Yamaha RX-A1020 WHF Review Soon?

Just got back after a few days away working.

To me (I'm not a very discriminating listener), the Q Acoustics are not overly bright, so I'm thinking pairing them with a Yamaha would be a good marraige, I hope so anyway.

I'm really drawn towards the 1020, it really seems future proofed, and it also has the desired phono stage.

It's still a fair bit more than I would usually contemplate spending on a receiver (my 2400es was £450), but I can raise some cash selling my Sony, plus some other stuff that never gets used, so it might only be about £200 net spend. 

I'll check the bank balance later, chase up some owed cash, list the items for sale, then hope I can still get it for £699. 

Or probably just buy it first, and worry about the funds later. ;)

 

__________________

LOUNGE:  Panasonic TX-P50GT50 (is poorly) / Panasonic DMP-BDT120 / Yamaha RX-A2020 / Dali Zensor 3 (front) / Dali Zensor Vokal (centre) / Mordaunt Short MS20i Pearl Edition (rear) / Q Acoustics1000Si (sub) / Roksan Radius 5.2 / Ortofon Super OM20 Cartridge / Sky HD / WD My Book Live 2TB / Seagate Expansion 2TB / Nintendo Wii / Tacima CS-929 

BEDROOM:  Samsung LE32C450 / Sony BDP-S360 / Echostar HDS-600RS / Netgear WNCE2001