+1 BB. Logitech is one company where I would trust their 'damaged box' or recon' kit. Replaced my 2yr battery foc & good customer support for setting up the One.
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You need a bigger TV oldboy...at least 55 inches!
I'm of exactly the same opinion bigboss and towards the end of the year I intend to add a nice shiny new 55 inch TV if funds allow
First, new TV size, when you can - I don't think that 55" is enough of a step up from your present 46". Almost three years ago I changed my parlour TV from a 42" Pioneer to a 50" Pioneer, and nobody (out of about eight people) noticed! I'm not sure if many LCD or LED ranges go much bigger, though Sony certainly had a 65" LED last year that has recently been discontinued.
Second, your new Yamaha RX-A2020 is the updated version of my 2010 (I need to change my signature) and it should be even better than mine. I've experimented with the surround modes when playing Blu-Rays, and I prefer Movie Spectacular best, certainly better than Straight. But that's very much a matter of personal taste. I also (by pressing the Option button on the remote) use the Tone control to set Treble boost to +3dB, but again, that's individual taste.
I think you said that you were looking for a review of it? I can't find one online, but the current (June 2013, number 221) issue of Home Cinema Choice magazine has just such a review, a two-page affair starting on page 64. Richard Stevenson gives it 4.5 out of 5 stars.
Click here to read about my system
As long as the Soundfield parameters have been suitably adjusted then I also find that with movie soundtracks Yamaha AV amplifiers give the most dynamic and natural performance with Movie Spectacle
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Musicraft (Derby), Specialist Hi-Fi/AV & Multimedia Dealer
good accurate audio monitoring and good sound reproduction to all
I find one thing annoying & wonder if its the same with latest Yams? The EQ options are OFF. Fine. EQ which allows u to alter each speakers frequency response in bands. Fine. PEQ which sets the equalization from the auto setup procedure. BUT u cant see nor adjust the PEQ. It would be nice to tweak the aettings but can only take it or leave it. I leave it because it always sounds to flat. I use EQ and adjust the centre to personal taste. No idea which parameters rhe PEQ adjusts but for the ambitious there is reverb, room size etc etc. Could be a lifetimes hobby!
Hi Rick. Hints & tips needed for adjusting sound field parameters! Manual is clear but as helpful as a chocolate spoon.
I've tried to buy a Harmony One a few times now Robin but they are hard to find and expensive when you do find them, I'm reticent to buy one from flea bay as I would much rather have a new one than one that has been used as you never know how many times it's been dropped or had drinks spilled on it etc.
If I could find a Harmony One for the same sort of money as the touch then I would get one, the touch is available for about £120 at the moment so I will keep looking.
Keep an eye here as well. Sometimes you do get some brilliant deals.
Many thanks as ever bigboss, I will keep an eye out for a touch then
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Many thanks for your input it's much appreciated.
When it comes to a new tv 55 inch is going to be as big as I go and should be plenty big enough for my room and the position of my sofa, I completely understand your thoughts with screen size but cost is my main consideration here and if I were to look at an even larger tv then we are getting into the realm of uncomfortable cost. I'm prepared to go to the £2000 mark but that's my cut off so to get a tv any bigger than 55 inch will be difficult at that price point and I won't buy another plasma tv as I do too much gaming to make it a practical alternative so I think 55 inch LED is where I'm going to have to stick at.
I still prefer the Sci-Fi surrfound mode on my Yamaha 2020 and Django sounded incredible last night when I watched it, I did go through the other modes to compare them and I can see why some people would prefer the spectacle setting but as you say it's just personal taste. When it comes to treble I use the bypass setting and have found this far better because when you add treble with the 2020 it gets a little too bright and the high end gets a bit harsh, bypass on the other hand gives just the right balance between nice clear treble without getting harsh. Perhaps this is a trait of the new models?
I did find a review online from Audioholics which you can view here:
The review points to two features not being included on the 2020, namely Pandora and Sirius neither of which I have any knowledge of, as being major ommisions. The review is a little harsh in my opinion and when you factor into the equation the price I paid for it I can safely say I'm completely happy and content with my purchase and in my system it just sings.
Where are these settings Robin and how have you set yours? If you could provide an idiots guide for me at this stage on where to find them and what to adjust them to it would be greatly appreciated as I'm still learning the remote let alone all the settings, it's still a bit confusing as my Onkyo by comparison was basic with functions but then the Yamaha is 3 times the price so I would expect a miriad of functions and menus. What is PEQ by the way? Is that something to do with the YPAO set up?
I am the right one for an idiots guide !
I'll check to see if 2020 is same as 2065 re PEQ etc.. May have changed
Thank you very much from one idiot to another lol
By the way everyone...today I ordered all the necessary bits and peices to add front height speakers to my set up so speaker brackets and banana plugs are on the way (already got the speaker wire) and will order another pair of Zensor 1's tomorrow so hopefully it's all here in time for the weekend. Only problem is it will mean more setting up and another calibration.
Just read the manual. Ignore my previous!
I'll advise you in a couple of years after I've read it all.
I WANT ONE !!
Will it improve on my V2065 ???
I STILL want one!
Tell me about it! 174 pages of confusion is a better name for it
What I have found so far is Parametric EQ in the manual speaker set up menu which I think is what you were refering to? It has 4 settings which are: Manual, YPAO Flat, YPAO Front, YPAO Natural and Through. Currently this is set to YPAO Flat which is how the auto set up left it but I have no idea which is the best option here but to my ears it's between YPAO Flat and YPAO Natural, Flat sounds more detailed with higher treble levels but natural is warmer with less treble but slightly more bass...overall I think Flat delivers the best sound for my taste.
Of course I may be wrong about that and someone else may be better placed to advise me but I'm also guessing it depends on your room conditions as to which mode sounds better??
Just as with the RX-V2065 the Aventage RX-A2020 also offers the ability to customize DSP Soundfield parameters such as room size, DSP level, liveness, reverb time, etc. Only that the RX-A2020's processing is even more powerful
Btw, the Aventage RX-A2020 is a worthwhile improvement over the already impressive RX-A2065. Simply put the RX-V2065 sounds as though its reproducing music and movie soundtracks in slow motion in comparision to the Aventage RX-A2020
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