I'm ooming & ahhring with myself over a RX-A3010 at the moment.
I don't know if i am going to win the argument over waiting 9 months for the newer model to drop in price to something similar.. More tablets to take I suppose
It is difficult to justify the outlay unless it is going to be a significant improvement over my existing amp with the same speaker setup.
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The 3010 at just over £900 is a fantastic price, and if I had both the money, and speakers to do it justice, I'd buy one today.
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That is what worries me, my speakers would not do it justice.
Possibly true, but you'd be getting a whole lot of amp for your money, and if it's pretty much future proofed, you won't need to look at replacing it any time soon.
Is the 2010 still available at bargain prices? If so, that could be the answer.
To Bernard, I went from the Sony 3400es to the 3010 Yammy and the difference was huge!
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BBB, here's my thoughts...
I decided to go the AVR upgrade route because I couldn't find a problem with the Panasonic DMP-BDT120. I've given it a thorough test with a range of material. For an entry level BDP (free in both of our cases), it does an exemplary job. Discs are quick to load. DVD upscaling is genuinely excellent. It's reasonably quiet in operation. Once in my AV cabinet, I couldn't hear it all. (Well, it sounds a bit clunky during disc loading. During playback it's very quiet.)
With a view to being relatively future proof, it also seemed sensible to have a receiver that would pass through 3D and 4k.
On a performance per pound ratio, an AVR upgrade made the most sense in my situation, though contemplating this gave me a headache for a few days.
However, it's worth asking how happy you are with your current Sony receiver? If you're happy with the sound, then the BDP upgrade route will likely save you a bit of money.
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Incidentally, I bought the 810. Seemed too good a deal to pass up and it was the last one at my local RS. All arranged over the phone. Delivery on Tuesday, so I'll report back once it's all set up.
Now, I need to sell my old TV, AVR and BDP and decide whether a replacement GT50 is the way to go. I noticed DSE on the left of the screen last night (I had already seen it on the right). The buzzing hasn't improved, either. I think I'll get it replaced, but I'll wait a few more days as I've got too many things going on at the mo. Having already spoken to John Lewis, at least I know arranging a replacement is simply a matter of a phone call.
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Thanks for all the info. I think I've decided to go the new receiver route, though I still like my 2400, it's probably the right time to change it.
I've just received an email from Creative Audio letting me know that the 1010 is all gone and won't be coming back. BUT, they have offered me a 1020 for £699, or a 673 for £395. To be clear, the 1020 offer is not on their website, but was offered via email as I asked to be emailed when the 1010 was back in stock, so I guess they're offering to all who did this.
The 673 is no good to me, as it doesn't have a phono in, but the 1020 does, but it's still above what I would like to pay.
I was looking at the Denon AVR2311 on RS website, it's a fantastic price, but no phono again.
If anyone knows of a great receiver, futureproofed with 3D and 4K etc, and no more than £450, I'd hugely appreciate it.
Well, the 810 fits all of your criteria except the phono input. Is there an affordable phono preamplifier that would solve your problem here, thereby giving you a wider choice of AVR?
According to the manual on RS website, the 810 does have a phono in.
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This is pretty cheap, but is it any good. Any ideas?
I'm drawn to this receiver, price mainly, but so many good things inside it, and seems pretty futureproofed.
Will it be as good or better than my 2400es soundwise?
Any known problems with it?
Any opinions please?
The customer reviews are good, so I'm guessing it does a decent enough job. You could start a hi-fi thread asking the same question. Others more qualified than I can hopefully advise.
For some reason, my dealer advised me against buying Denon receivers last year, apparently because the quality of components isn't good. I cannot verify his claims. In fact, a couple more dealers told me the same. Best to speak to your trusted dealer to check this. I've not heard of a simple complaint on the forums regarding Denon receivers.
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With a relatively cheap preamp (assuming it does all you need it to), the 810 is still worth considering... I haven't heard the 2400es, but I'd be surprised if the 810 didn't represent a noticeable step up in performance with films.
Having checked more thoroughly, which I should have done before buying, I noticed that the 810 won't do 4k pass through (the 820, 1020, and 673 do, in case that's a factor in your decision).
Whatever you decide, an audition would seem essential. As you're attaching a turntable, I assume you want your receiver to do a decent job with music. The 810 might not offer the best value in this regard.
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