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As discussed on another thread, I've been debating whether to upgrade my BDP or AVR (with a view to being fully 3D ready).

Without going into detail, I've decided to upgrade the AVR. Now it's a question of which one.

Fortunately that means I've no need to become further entangled in the Oppo 103 debate (though I'd still quite like one)!

The Yamaha RX-A810 is a very strong contender, though it's not as persuasive with stereo as I'd like.

I don't have a separate hi-fi system, so I'd really like my living room system to perform well with music as well as films. I appreciate that a dedicated stereo system will outperform an AVR, but it'd be a real bonus if my system did a decent job with music.

With a budget of £500 (with perhaps a little flexibility), what are the alternatives? I've read of a few glitches with Onkyo receivers this year, which has given me pause.

I'm running B&W series 3 front and centre speakers, with an Acoustic Energy Radiance sub.

Blu-rays and DVDs remain my priority. If the Yamaha turns out to be the best option I'll have to move pretty swiftly, as there's only one in stock at my local RS.

Thanks all.

 

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

Check this:

http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/HD.php?_YAM_1010_&CAT=HCAMP&ID=4655

Yamahas are very good with music. I don't have a separate stereo amplifier, nor have I felt the need to have one. 

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

bigboss wrote:

Check this:

http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/HD.php?_YAM_1010_&CAT=HCAMP&ID=4655

Yamahas are very good with music. I don't have a separate stereo amplifier, nor have I felt the need to have one. 

Thanks BB. I spotted that deal, too, and I'm very tempted.

I can't audition the 1010, though, so I've no idea if it's worth the extra over the 810. Perhaps someone can advise here?

Extra functionality has no bearing on my decision. I simply want to stick a HDMI lead in the back, run a HDMI out to my TV, and get the best sound possible (with films and music) for my money.

I used to enjoy AV shopping. These days I find it stressful...

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

This avr was reccomended to me by David(hifix) on the basis that it would be excellent at driving my speakers.

I demo'd it against an aquivalant pioneer,and prefered the yamaha.

The sound from all sources is excellent,the front pressence(virtual) is great for tv viewing.I listen to 5.1 stereo for streamed flac recordings and its great,imho.

Hope this helps Smile

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

GSB wrote:

This avr was reccomended to me by David(hifix) on the basis that it would be excellent at driving my speakers.

I demo'd it against an aquivalant pioneer,and prefered the yamaha.

The sound from all sources is excellent,the front pressence(virtual) is great for tv viewing.I listen to 5.1 stereo for streamed flac recordings and its great,imho.

Hope this helps Smile

Many thanks GSB.

Can you advise which AVR (the 810 or the 1010)?

If it's the 1010, I've just realised it wont fit in my AV cabinet. Crying I'm glad I checked the dimensions and got the tape measure out before pulling the trigger.

It's a Blok cabinet. I'm very fond of it and wouldn't change it for anything. To be honest, finding a cabinet I'm happy with was the trickiest AV purchase I've made.

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

Mines the 1010,didn't realise they were different dimensions to be honest...but the 810 is still a good avr from reviews iv'e read,just not as powerfull.

One thing is that when i got it home(demo'd with the same speakers as i have at home) and played with the settings i improved the sound considerably.

There is a dedicated forum for the 810/1010/2010 on avforums if you fancy a look Smile

 

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

Thanks again.

As it turns out, I can just cram the 1010 in, if I raise one of the shelves in my cabinet. Otherwise, the internal door brackets make the space too narrow. The receiver would virtually touch both internal cabinet walls though, with about 10cm headroom.

Having said that, Creative Audio is out of stock, and the next best price I can find anywhere is £650. Not sure where all this leaves me. Perhaps back with the 810, as it would fit more comfortably in my cabinet and I'd be saving money.

The other option is an Onkyo 717 (£599 at Peter Tyson). As stated above, I've read of a few glitches with Onkyo receivers this year, so I'd be very grateful if owners could report on their experiences.

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

FWIW,iv'e found the 1010 to run cool,as opposed to hot Smile

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

Good to know. If I can find it in stock for $549 from a reputable retailer, I'll go for it.

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

http://www.audio-express.co.uk/hotdeal.php?&cat=HCAMP&HOTDEAL=YAM_1010&t=ga

 

Edit: that may be the same company. 

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

Cheers Ben.

Unfortunately it is the same company and the 1010's out of stock. I can leave my email address so I'm notified if/when stock is available but, as this is an outgoing model, I could be waiting some time...

Perhaps I shouldn't become distracted by possibilities and pounce on the 810 while I still can.

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

£590 at exceptional-av, otherwise it's looking tricky. 

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

strapped for cash wrote:

Perhaps I shouldn't become distracted by possibilities and pounce on the 810 while I still can.

Agreed. Smile

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

I'm seriously considering going the amp route now, rather than the twin hdmi BDP.

The 1010 must be quite a step up in quality over the 810, and as there is only £100 difference in price, surely it's the one to buy?

Then again, with my speaker set up, would the 810 be good enough, and would it also be a step up in quality over my 2400es?

 

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

There is one Yamaha RX-A1010 available here for £599 Clicky  not new though.

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RE: Decision made; well, sort of...

f1only wrote:

There is one Yamaha RX-A1010 available here for £599 Clicky  not new though.

There's a new one at Exceptional AV for £589 delivered, but I think Strapped is hoping to get it at £550 or less, me too (if I ever make a decision that is) <img src=" />

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