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Of course, if box count is the priority the best option may be ditching these speakers, replace them with 3 actives and just have the oppo 105 as an integrated blu ray & pre/pro  :twisted:

(waiting for AVI lovers to start recommending any time now....)

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PLEASE,FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE NOOOOO :pray:

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BenLaw wrote:

Of course, if box count is the priority the best option may be ditching these speakers, replace them with 3 actives and just have the oppo 105 as an integrated blu ray & pre/pro  :twisted:

(waiting for AVI lovers to start recommending any time now....)

 

TBF the all in one stereo advantages are rather redundant in a HT setup - you're spending money on their pre amps, remote, DACs and multiple inputs that you wouldn't need. 

 

Cno, in case you couldn't tell I was just having a bit of a joke. I actually think we're in agreement about Alex's current thoughts - it doesn't really work. To get a centre and the required quality of amplification to match current stereo amp and speakers will be very expensive, it would seem prohibitively so. It also cannot be achieved with an integrated solution. Lower grade centre and / or amp will not lead to a satisfying outcome. So Alex has three choices - (i) start from scratch, (ii) have a separate HT system, (iii) forget this idea and enjoy films in stereo. 

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Cno, in case you couldn't tell I was just having a bit of a joke. 

Who me?.......not a clue.  Wink

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Possible Sonus Faber centres: http://www.stoneaudio.co.uk/?manufacturer=sonus+faber

- Toy

- Venere

- Liuto Smart

- Cremona

Sorry off Topic...

 Hey CnoEvil, woild you happen to know were i could get this sonus faber Venere center to match my speakers.. Or if possible to audtion the center.. am currently using B&W's HTM61.. Would my  Cremona's over power the Venere center..?

Cheers

 OPPO 105EU, Arcam AVR450, Boston Acoustics M340. Dac: Musical fedility V90.

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CnoEvil wrote:

Possible Sonus Faber centres: http://www.stoneaudio.co.uk/?manufacturer=sonus+faber

- Toy

- Venere

- Liuto Smart

- Cremona

Sorry off Topic...

 Hey CnoEvil, woild you happen to know were i could get this sonus faber Venere center to match my speakers.. Or if possible to audtion the center.. am currently using B&W's HTM61.. Would my  Cremona's over power the Venere center..?

Cheers

http://www.kjwestone.co.uk/collection/01/sonus-faber/venere-center-new/

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Sorry off Topic...

 Hey CnoEvil, woild you happen to know were i could get this sonus faber Venere center to match my speakers.. Or if possible to audtion the center.. am currently using B&W's HTM61.. Would my  Cremona's over power the Venere center..?

Cheers

I can't be much help I'm afraid........maybe give SF a ring and see where your nearest dealer is.

I wouldn't think your Cremonas would over-power the Venere centre....I would worry more about the tonal match (which may be OK).

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BenLaw wrote:

Cno, in case you couldn't tell I was just having a bit of a joke. 

Who me?.......not a clue.  Wink

 

Maybe I misinterpreted your response then. Anyway, do you agree with my assessment?

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CnoEvil wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

Cno, in case you couldn't tell I was just having a bit of a joke. 

Who me?.......not a clue.  Wink

Maybe I misinterpreted your response then. Anyway, do you agree with my assessment?

Forums can be tricky to fully get one's intention across.......I was being a tad facetious / flippant.

Yes I agree.....and somewhat speaking from experience.

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OK...you convinced me there is nothing to do so far as I don't have space to put other speakers and my SFs are not going nowhere for the next....ehm...many years Smile

I guess I will just get a good BR player (which I can also use as CDPlayer) and keep enjoying films in stereo. I had this idea of adding a center as I was convinced that it would fix this problem of turning up and down the volume. I watched Batman last night (the last one) and it was pretty impressive also with the stereo setup...not sure what my neighbours thought about my idea though  :shame:

Thanks a lot for all suggestions

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Adding a centre speaker will certainly help, but you need a separate AV receiver to run it. You can even go for a slimline version like Marantz with pre-outs as suggested by someone in the thread earlier.

What will really make a massive difference to your experience, is a subwoofer, if you don't already have one. It's a sin to watch Batman without one!  :O

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Adding a centre speaker will certainly help, but you need a separate AV receiver to run it. You can even go for a slimline version like Marantz with pre-outs as suggested by someone in the thread earlier.

What will really make a massive difference to your experience, is a subwoofer, if you don't already have one. It's a sin to watch Batman without one!  :O

So you are suggesting that if I get a separate AV receiver than it will be enough to drive a center and a subwoofer? I like a lot actually the Marantz slimline version and was on my radar for long time. 

The fact of having a decent center but not at the same level of speakers (as I really don't want to invest that much now) would be an horrible syn?

Actually..I thought the same but the room was really shaking when Batman was driving his "car" and I could feel almost the air of explosions even without subwoofer. Was REALLY impressed by the SFs for their size. Don't want to imagine what a subwoofer can do...but unfortunately I would need to change house first as having other people underneath and on top is not ideal for this! 

Thanks

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Native_bon wrote:

Sorry off Topic...

 Hey CnoEvil, woild you happen to know were i could get this sonus faber Venere center to match my speakers.. Or if possible to audtion the center.. am currently using B&W's HTM61.. Would my  Cremona's over power the Venere center..?

Cheers

I can't be much help I'm afraid........maybe give SF a ring and see where your nearest dealer is.

I wouldn't think your Cremonas would over-power the Venere centre....I would worry more about the tonal match (which may be OK).

I am really not experienced so pardon me if I am saying silly things...but it is really that important? I mean, the voice when you have a center is supposed to get out of the center only, correct? How a tonal match will influence so much your experience? I mean if you get voice over the center and all the rest from the front. why it's so important having the tone of special effects similar to the voice? How much difference can be?

Again...sorry if I am swearing!  :oops:

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bigboss wrote:

Adding a centre speaker will certainly help, but you need a separate AV receiver to run it. You can even go for a slimline version like Marantz with pre-outs as suggested by someone in the thread earlier.

What will really make a massive difference to your experience, is a subwoofer, if you don't already have one. It's a sin to watch Batman without one!  :O

So you are suggesting that if I get a separate AV receiver than it will be enough to drive a center and a subwoofer? I like a lot actually the Marantz slimline version and was on my radar for long time. 

The fact of having a decent center but not at the same level of speakers (as I really don't want to invest that much now) would be an horrible syn?

Actually..I thought the same but the room was really shaking when Batman was driving his "car" and I could feel almost the air of explosions even without subwoofer. Was REALLY impressed by the SFs for their size. Don't want to imagine what a subwoofer can do...but unfortunately I would need to change house first as having other people underneath and on top is not ideal for this! 

Thanks

Yes, the AV receiver will be able to drive a subwoofer as well. I don't think a subwoofer will make things worse. It'll simply take over the job from your front speakers and do a better job at it.

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acalex wrote:

bigboss wrote:

Adding a centre speaker will certainly help, but you need a separate AV receiver to run it. You can even go for a slimline version like Marantz with pre-outs as suggested by someone in the thread earlier.

What will really make a massive difference to your experience, is a subwoofer, if you don't already have one. It's a sin to watch Batman without one!  :O

So you are suggesting that if I get a separate AV receiver than it will be enough to drive a center and a subwoofer? I like a lot actually the Marantz slimline version and was on my radar for long time. 

The fact of having a decent center but not at the same level of speakers (as I really don't want to invest that much now) would be an horrible syn?

Actually..I thought the same but the room was really shaking when Batman was driving his "car" and I could feel almost the air of explosions even without subwoofer. Was REALLY impressed by the SFs for their size. Don't want to imagine what a subwoofer can do...but unfortunately I would need to change house first as having other people underneath and on top is not ideal for this! 

Thanks

Yes, the AV receiver will be able to drive a subwoofer as well. I don't think a subwoofer will make things worse. It'll simply take over the job from your front speakers and do a better job at it.

You got me curios now...I think I will borrow one to see how things change, also for music. 

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