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RE: A/V Receiver and blue ray player integrated

Marantz NR-1603 Slim Line AV Reciver with pre- and subwoofer out.

Pioneer BDP-450 Blueray Player.

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bigboss wrote:
Look at Denon Cara: http://www.denon.co.uk/uk/product/pages/Product-Detail.aspx?CatId=HomeTheatre&SubId=BluraySurroundReceiver&ProductId=CARA I'm not sure if it has pre-outs. Better check.

Good call. Pre-outs is hard to tell from the specs but the back panel looks like it has a pair of zone 1 pre outs in addition to the sub out. This is a rather limiting way to go though. 

Yup, think you're right - zooming in, under the pre-out connectors, it looks like it says "SB/Assign" so I assume that means by default it's for surround back speakers, but you can re-assign it to the fronts?

 

That's what I thought it said too. Bit of an odd setup, but I assumed that's what it meant too. Definitely would need to be checked for sure before dropping £2k. I think the manual is available to download. 

It's a 5.1 but can be made 7.1 by adding an amplifier to surround back (SB) port. Worth checking if it can assigned for front.

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Exoticsounds wrote:

Marantz NR-1603 Slim Line AV Reciver with pre- and subwoofer out.

Pioneer BDP-450 Blueray Player.

The OP wants a 1 box solution (AV receiver and blu ray player integrated).

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bigboss wrote:
Look at Denon Cara: http://www.denon.co.uk/uk/product/pages/Product-Detail.aspx?CatId=HomeTheatre&SubId=BluraySurroundReceiver&ProductId=CARA I'm not sure if it has pre-outs. Better check.

Good call. Pre-outs is hard to tell from the specs but the back panel looks like it has a pair of zone 1 pre outs in addition to the sub out. This is a rather limiting way to go though. 

Yup, think you're right - zooming in, under the pre-out connectors, it looks like it says "SB/Assign" so I assume that means by default it's for surround back speakers, but you can re-assign it to the fronts?

That's what I thought it said too. Bit of an odd setup, but I assumed that's what it meant too. Definitely would need to be checked for sure before dropping £2k. I think the manual is available to download. 

Okay, downloaded the manual - unfortunately this isn't the case. Page 37 describes that this can be used to connect to a power amplifier for either 7.1 with front height speakers or 7.1 with surround backs. Those are the only two options available for the pre-out assignment according to the manual.

 

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Possible Sonus Faber centres: http://www.stoneaudio.co.uk/?manufacturer=sonus+faber

- Toy

- Venere

- Liuto Smart

- Cremona

£3200 for the Cremona!

...........which is why I listed others.

If it was me, and there was room, i would get all Kef R Series for the front, ie. putting a couple of R100s (or LS50s) beside the SFs (along with the centre), and forget about using the Jadis for AV. It would sort a lot of problems, and sound great.

"We should no more let numbers define audio quality than we should let chemical analysis be the arbiter of fine wines."  Nelson Pass

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acalex wrote:

Hello everybody,

I am trying to build my home theater system and was thinking to add a center to my existing 2 channel for music. I will be using the hi-fi amplifier (which has a pre-out) to drive my front and wanted to add an AV receiver to drive the center and add a blu-ray player.

Anything good around? Sorry not expert here...

 

Thanks a lot

TBH, it sounds like a lot of bother just to add a centre speaker, especially as you're after an all-in-one receiver/BD with pre-outs, which I fear may be like trying to find hen's teeth....

If I were in your shoes, I'd either stick with what you already have or if you were prepared to go for full surround I'd get a receiver with pre-outs and a separate BD player.

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Hello, why is such a bad idea to have an all-in one solution like the Oppo 105? 

Why do you thunk I shouldn't bother to have center? I am a bit fed up of having to turn up the volume when people are talking and to turn it down when I have special effects (as too loud otherwise). Won't i fix the problem with a center speaker?

But definitely I would like to stick with a one-box solution if possible

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CnoEvil wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

CnoEvil wrote:

Possible Sonus Faber centres: http://www.stoneaudio.co.uk/?manufacturer=sonus+faber

- Toy

- Venere

- Liuto Smart

- Cremona

£3200 for the Cremona!

...........which is why I listed others.

If it was me, and there was room, i would get all Kef R Series for the front, ie. putting a couple of R100s (or LS50s) beside the SFs (along with the centre), and forget about using the Jadis for AV. It would sort a lot of problems, and sound great.

This would impy to have

- New 3 speakers (2 front and 1 center)

- 1 AV receiver

- 1 BR player

- A lot of space...

- Quite a lot of cash

 

The problem of the space being the biggest...as I don't think my gf would accept another 3 speakers in that space...

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But does the 105 have amplification built in? I didn't think it did, in which case you'd still need an amp of some sort, also, adding a centre speaker probably won't have any bearing on dynamics. I think we all suffer at some time from ramping the volume up for dialogue only to jump on the remote when something explodes somewhere.  Smile

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acalex wrote:

Hello, why is such a bad idea to have an all-in one solution like the Oppo 105? 

Why do you thunk I shouldn't bother to have center? I am a bit fed up of having to turn up the volume when people are talking and to turn it down when I have special effects (as too loud otherwise). Won't i fix the problem with a center speaker?

But definitely I would like to stick with a one-box solution if possible

Oppo 105 does not have any amplification. It's just a blu ray player. You'll still need a separate amplifier for the centre.

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How about leaving the hi-fi purely for music and looking at a soundbar for TV/films?

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How about leaving the hi-fi purely for music and looking at a soundbar for TV/films?

That's a good option. Or go for a separate blu ray player & an AV receiver with pre-outs. I don't think there's anything else in the market to satisfy your requirements.

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acalex wrote:

This would impy to have

- New 3 speakers (2 front and 1 center)

- 1 AV receiver

- 1 BR player

- A lot of space...

- Quite a lot of cash

The problem of the space being the biggest...as I don't think my gf would accept another 3 speakers in that space...

The likelihood is that you are going to need AV amp, BRP and Centre Speaker anyway.....so it's only 2 extra icky little speakers.  :shifty:

If the SFs are not part of the equation, you will get away with a much cheeper AV amp. 

I suspect if you cobble something together, it's still going to cost a fair bit, not sound quite right, be a bit of a torture, use a lot of lecky......all of which, in the end, will lead you back to what I'm suggesting.  Wink

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CnoEvil wrote:

acalex wrote:

This would impy to have

- New 3 speakers (2 front and 1 center)

- 1 AV receiver

- 1 BR player

- A lot of space...

- Quite a lot of cash

The problem of the space being the biggest...as I don't think my gf would accept another 3 speakers in that space...

The likelihood is that you are going to need AV amp, BRP and Centre Speaker anyway.....so it's only 2 extra icky little speakers.  :shifty:

If the SFs are not part of the equation, you will get away with a much cheeper AV amp. 

I suspect if you cobble something together, it's still going to cost a fair bit, not sound quite right, be a bit of a torture, use a lot of lecky......all of which, in the end, will lead you back to what I'm suggesting.  Wink

 

Of course, if box count is the priority the best option may be ditching these speakers, replace them with 3 actives and just have the oppo 105 as an integrated blu ray & pre/pro  :twisted:

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Of course, if box count is the priority the best option may be ditching these speakers, replace them with 3 actives and just have the oppo 105 as an integrated blu ray & pre/pro  :twisted:

........of course............ :doh:

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