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Are the Pioneer SC-LX56 or the 86 a good choice if I want a good all rounder with good quality CD audio playback?

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Hi there, 

I have been looking at a good all round AV amp that can provide good quality CD audio playback and a decent quality sound via AirPlay from iTunes. I have been looking at the Pioneer SC-LX56 and 86 and wondered whether;

1. Whether either of these AV amps are suitable for decent quality stereo audio

2. Whether I should be looking at alternatives.

Current kit includes B & W 600 series home theatre speaker package, Panasonic  bluray, marantz cd, technics stereo amplifier, apple airport express, arcam rLink.

Thanks,

Much appreciated

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Pioneer SC-LX56 or the 86 for good quality CD audio playback?

Hi,

I have the 85 with Apex speakers and an Oppo 95.

I am more than happy with the music side of this combination, the Pioneer is run in Direct mode for stereo.

I do stream from the Oppo and sometimes use the Air play from my iPad 2.

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Bedroom - Sony KDL-40W2000 + Archos 7 streaming from Windows Home Server 2011, Altec Lansing inAir 5000.

Dining Room - Sonos S5.

Music - HP Proliant Server running WHS 2011 ¦ streaming FLAC to Sonos ZP90 and OPPO 95 via SC-LX85.

Hi Fi - Cyrus 8 XPd QX amp ¦ Cyrus PSX-R power supply acting as Pre Amp ¦ Quad 909 Power Amp ¦ Speakers - Spendor A3 ¦ Logitech Squeezebox Touch upgrade by Fidelity Audio ¦ power supply upgrade by Mains Cables R Us ¦ Furutech Mains Cables ¦ Power Plant Premier mains regenerator.

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RE: Are the Pioneer SC-LX56 or the 86 a good choice

Both Pioneers are strong performers. Also consider the Yamaha alternatives. We just reviewed the Yamaha RX-A3020 and really liked it.

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This is very late, but I have

This is very late, but I have the Pioneer 86 and no it doesn't sound great with music, none of these receivers do full stop. I do wish magazines and web sites would stop misleading people. Any of these surround receivers can be beaten on sound quality for music by a 300 quid amplifier.

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 Just my opinion, but I have

 Just my opinion, but I have owned Yamaha, Onkyo, and Pioneer AV Amps over the last 10 or 12 years, and I haven't heard one yet that sounds half decent with just music through two speakers.

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 Bedroom: Pioneer Kuro KRP 500a, Humax YouView, Pansonic BDT 500, XBOX 360.

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RE: This is very late, but I have

Roundhead 5000 wrote:

This is very late, but I have the Pioneer 86 and no it doesn't sound great with music, none of these receivers do full stop. I do wish magazines and web sites would stop misleading people. Any of these surround receivers can be beaten on sound quality for music by a 300 quid amplifier.

I have to disagree.

my Pioneer 85 within my set up sounds very good with music, just need to make sure it is set up correctly.

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AV System -  Panasonic 42VT30 ¦ MA Apex 5.1- 4xA10 1xA40+ AW-12 Sub ¦ Van Damme UP LCOFC Speaker Cable ¦ Pioneer SC-LX85 ¦ OPPO 95 ¦ Mark Grant G1500HD Precision audio cable ¦ Sky+ HD(1TB) ¦ Chord Active HDMI ¦ Furutech Mains Cables ¦ Belkin PF50 mains conditioner.

Bedroom - Sony KDL-40W2000 + Archos 7 streaming from Windows Home Server 2011, Altec Lansing inAir 5000.

Dining Room - Sonos S5.

Music - HP Proliant Server running WHS 2011 ¦ streaming FLAC to Sonos ZP90 and OPPO 95 via SC-LX85.

Hi Fi - Cyrus 8 XPd QX amp ¦ Cyrus PSX-R power supply acting as Pre Amp ¦ Quad 909 Power Amp ¦ Speakers - Spendor A3 ¦ Logitech Squeezebox Touch upgrade by Fidelity Audio ¦ power supply upgrade by Mains Cables R Us ¦ Furutech Mains Cables ¦ Power Plant Premier mains regenerator.

Controlled by – iPad2 and Harmony 1100.

 

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RE: Just my opinion, but I have

I suppose it depends what you mean by "decent".

My preference for  CD playback is Arcam; though if you get an AVR with pre-outs into a stereo amp with HT bypass, this can be a good way round the problem.

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RE: Just my opinion, but I have

I totally disagree too, the Pioneer is sensational. I set up an LX56 for a friend yesterday connected to an RX6 MA package, The onboard DAC in the Pioneer is more than enough for musical needs, if you are an AV person, and right up there with a good HIFI Amp.  Just be aware that your setup is only as good as your source.CnoEvil is correct on Arcam being better, the AVR 400 is superb with music, but this is not a 4k ready AV, if that does not matter, then go for it! Do note, for me the Pioneer trumps the Arcam for Cinema.

I believe a demo is in order. 

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