In practice no because the frequencies overlap several channels either side of the one you choose (2 either side I think), generally the recommended channels to use are 1, 6 and 11 because that way you guarantee you won't overlap with someone using another of those three channels (ie someone on channel 1 won't overlap someone on 6 or 11, however some on channel 4 will overlap both 1 and 6 to a certain extent). Many devices will only give you the option of 1, 6 or 11 for this reason.
Download a free program like InSSider You can check all the surrounding network frequencies/strengths and pick one that is least likely to clash. This will fix many dropout issues.
Also be aware of things like nearby pylons - the in-laws had a nightmare with Wi-Fi until I moved their router away from an external wall because electricity pylons nearby meant you could barely get a signal 10 feet away - scary!
Brand Manager, Acoustic Energy Ltd.
Currently using BT Homehub 3 and no issues.
Ditto. 2 laptops, 3 android phones when at home, wireless printer, and smart BD and TV. Via the hub my Samsung Galaxy works fine with the telly. Waiting on an optical cable then phone audio output should be fine through the amp. This Apple "it just works" codswallop is just that IMHO.
Samsung UE46D5520 LED HD 1080p TV, Yam RX-V371 Receiver, Samsung BD-C5500 Blu-ray player, BT/Humax YouView PVR, Boston Acoustics XS SE 5.1, Goldring DR50 cans, Samsung Galaxy S+, BT Infinity 2, Homehub 3, Dell PC, Epson wireless printer, Nikon D3100 DSLR
On Virgin Media 30mb using the terrible Virgin 'Super Hub', but I don't use any of the router capabilities at all and just connect my Draytek router. Everything works fine beside some facing with Xbox Live and Playstation ports.
Never have problems with AirPlay at all, works pretty flawlessly.
PS3 Slim | Panasonic DMP-BD35 | Panasonic TH-42PZ80B/Samsung LE32M87BDX | Yamaha DSP-AX863SE/Denon AVR-1912 | Mordaunt Short 906i/905i/903i/Anthony Gallo A'Diva Ti's | Sennheiser HD555/Audeo PFE 012 | BK XLS200 DF| V+ HD XLTV | 27" iMac, Mac Air, iPad, iPhone, Nokia Lumia 800, iPod Nano | 2 x Harmony One's
Took VM a long time to come up with firmware for their 'Super Hub' to enable it to be used as a 'dumb' modem though. Then they continued to charge £75 (even to existing customers) for it when upgrading to 30mb.
Now they have dropped the £75 charge, I am thinking up upgrading from 10mb to 30mb. However, my connection has been so reliable (for well over 4 years) that I don't want to 'spook' it :-)
(And VM will be doubling my speed - free of charge - pretty soon.)
Same here with AirPlay. 'Bullet proof' performance so far (via Apple Airport Extreme 802.11n) and that's after 10 months using it daily.
Marantz M-CR603 + AirPlay • Rega R3 loudspeakers • iPhone 5 • iMac • Apple Airport Extreme 802.11n • Apple iPad Mini • Panasonic TX-L32D25B • Sony BDP-S390 • Ruark Audio R1 Deluxe • Humax HDR-Fox T2
FWIW, after much ranting and arguing with BT re generally poor broadband/router performance, BT has swapped my HomeHub 2 Type 'B' for a HomeHub 3 (below). Thus far, the latter is infintely more reliable and powerful, and aesthetically pleasing, than the former
This thread has really wound me up!
How can you expect a manufacturer to compensate you if your network is not up to scratch?
You did the right thing in going back to the retailer, who tested it on their router.
You bought a decent router and the problem was solved.
i can't see the problem, can you?
I'm running AirPlay all day through my Belkin router with 100% reliability.
Had it working fine before the firmware came out, simply plugged it into an Internet port (1), disabled a couple of things in the SuperHub interface and it worked. Full 30mb speeds no issues. I've a fair amount of networking experience (professionally and at home), but it really was very easy.
Agreed with above, get a decent router and you'll be quids in. That's why Draytek has always been my preference.
This isn't a hard lesson to learn about AirPlay as such, more a lesson about network-dependant protocols in general. At the end of the day, if the network is solid then AirPlay, and any other network-dependant feature, will work. Unlike what the topic poster suggests, there isn't a 'fundamental problem' with the AirPlay software.
I had issues with my Virgin Media 'Super' Hub which caused WiFi to drop out, or computer-to-computer file transfers to stall or stop completely even with a full WiFi signal. It also seemed to stop issuing DCHP leases at will, which caused devices on the network to lose their IP addresses on a fairly regular basis, even those which were hard wired. AirPlay would also suffer under this setup.
Since I switched my super hub into dumb modem-mode only, I now use an Apple AirPort Express as my router which has provided a bomb-proof network so far. Coverage seems slightly less than the super hub, but even on 2 out of 4 bars the connection is solid, fast and reliable compared to the full-bar signal I got from the super-hub. AirPlay has been rock solid since.
The trick is to find a router that works well for you - it doesn't have to be a pricey Apple one (although I do recommend them), but anything is better than the terrible freebies that the ISP provides.
Good post. +1
I have had the VM 'Large' cable internet package (currently 10Mbps) for about 5 years now (since it was NTL). For that whole time it has been rock solid and has always provided the whole bandwidth/speed I pay for.
It's so reliable that I work from home with no worries about losing connection. (I have only been forced to go to the office - due to an outage - for one day out of the whole five years.)
For those 5 years I have used the AirPort Extreme 802.11N as my wireless hub. It has great coverage and has - also - never let us down.
We have four computers that all communicate wirelessly (along with the Marantz M-CR603 and the Sony BDP-S370) and the AirPort Extreme + VM cable connection has never missed a beat, even when streaming iPlayer HD material alongside (up to) four of us 'caning' the connection.
I will probably get a VM Super Hub when they double my speed to 20Mbps soon. (April apparently.) Luckily the firmware is now sorted and I will do the same as you and just use it in 'dumb modem' mode with my AirPort Extreme.
Good choice! The hub seems to be fine in modem-only mode, so it's definately the clunky router-side of things that lets it down.
Just so you know, I just had a conversation with Denon's tech department after having trouble with my new Network Player and once they decided my issue might be the unit, the next thing out of their mouths was to ask what kind of router I was using. We then went on to have an informative 15 minute phone chat about what routers will and will not work with Airplay. I should mention that this was unprompted and unrelated to my original technical issue. BT Home Hub 3 and Virgin Media were definitely mentioned as the worst offenders (i.e. that they just don't work) and they recommended getting Netgear or Belkin N routers (Apple Airport was mentioned but he just said it was much too expensive for what it does, a fair point).
My point in mentioning this? I think that either I was just incredibly lucky making this phone call to someone knowledgeable and helpful, but its also possible that since you had your initial phone call about this the stereo manufacturers are at least educating their tech staff about this issue and cutting people's issues off at the pass so to speak. I agree this is something which should be clearer in their manuals, but again, I am sure its their sincere hope that BT or similar get their acts together so its not in their best interest to upset.
Wanted to at least report my experience - a good one for once - and that possibly things are better in this regard from the audio manufacturers. Now, to solve Educating people about this issue with rubbish BT routers? That is a much bigger challenge I think!
I do think the fact that Sonos uses it's own mesh wireless network, with each Sonos device acting as a repeater strengthening the signal, makes it less prone to wireless dropout issues and wireless router problems. It's one of the reasons I recenly resisted the new Pure products and added more Sonos devices.
Sonos I have found to be very simple and easy to setup with no issues. This has been with different routers and services provided by Virgin and Orange. My iPod Touch conversely had all kinds of issues connecting to my wireless network and getting an address via DHCP. Only when I managed to make it take a static IP did it consistently connect OK to the network.
As others have commented, not sure not sure Apple necessarily have the easiness and reliability factor Sonos has, though I don't doubt others may have found Apple great and had issues with Sonos.
Apple's airplay does not adhere 100% to existing network standards. As with all Apple products - BEWARE.
They try and tie you in to their ecosystem by making their kit ever so slightly uncompatible so you have to go out and buy another one of their boxes (to go with the other ones you didnt really need).
Sound like I'm cynical ? - you bet I am !
Server Synology 12Bay DS2413+, Synology 8Bay DS1812+, Sky+HD
Lounge Samsung UE55D9000, Denon DBT-3313, Onkyo TX-NR5009, Tannoy Arena Highline 500 LCR, ACRyan playon!HD mini2
Reception Samsung UE46C8000, Panasonic BDP310, Sony STR-DA5400ES, KEF2005.3, ACRyan playon!HD mini2
I have BT Infinity Broadband with the Homehub 3. I now find that I cannot acces the airplay function on my Denon Ceol or stream the music from my ITunes library anymore. Nor can I access my banking details, as I am registed for telephone banking. I can ring the bank OK and and listen to instructions but when I input my customer numbers they are not accepted.
I can do this using my mobile phone or by using a hardwired phone into the BT master socket, but not when using my cordless phones. I phone the BT helpdesk and was told by some guy in India I should change my bank and get a new account. LOL LOL.
Can anyone tell me is there a router I can buy that will work with BT Infinity fibre optic broadband. My Bt account runs out in about 6 months so I will leave then.
Ten grand of plastic and metal
I use AirPort Extreme with my BT broadband. Works brilliantly.
My Home Cinema Pioneer KRP 500A, Yamaha RX-V1900, MA Radius R225HD LCR, R90HD rears, AW12 sub, Panasonic BD60, PS3, Boxee Box, Sky HD, Boxee Box, Logitech Harmony One, Logitech PS3 Adapter, Sonos ZP90
Bedroom Samsung UE32C6510, PS3 slim white, Apple TV, Sonos S5, Sonos ZP90, Audioengine 2, Oppo OPDV971H
Miscellaneous: Synology DS212J + 2 X WD Red 2TB drives, WD 1TB NAS, Sonos ZoneBridge, BT HH3 as modem & AirPort Extreme router
© 2013 Haymarket Publishing