simonlewis wrote:In september when my neighbours put the spikes up on the fence i complained to the h/a who told me that me/them/we are not allowed to put things on the fence, which my neighbours were informed, my neighbours have decided to be awkward by putting the trellis up on the sunday the 13th of january.as far as i'm concerned what people do in their own gardens is up to them, but i'm not having my neighbours telling me what i can or can not have on a h/a fence outside where i live that affects me.
In september when my neighbours put the spikes up on the fence i complained to the h/a who told me that me/them/we are not allowed to put things on the fence, which my neighbours were informed, my neighbours have decided to be awkward by putting the trellis up on the sunday the 13th of january.
as far as i'm concerned what people do in their own gardens is up to them, but i'm not having my neighbours telling me what i can or can not have on a h/a fence outside where i live that affects me.
I think that the fence looks great simon and at the price that fencing is, I have no idea as to why you wouldn't like it ... explain please ?
It is in my head nothing to get worked-up about imo tbh and like I say it DOES look like a nice fence and will give you and everyone else some nice privacy will it not ?
I really don't understand what's not to like about it ?
The neighbour puts something on the fence that looks perfectly nice IMO because he doesn't want kids climbing them. That I can understand. I'm a dad but have had that problemin the past. You remove them, paint them etc without saying anything.
IMO you are commiting an act of vandalism. Speak to the guy. Shyness is not an excuse for anything. Maybe you will come to an agreement. But on another forum, some guy is compaining about some random, unknown people who keep wrecking his act of community spirit of making the fences a bit harder to climb over.
Sorry Simon, for now, I'd vote for the other guy :/
fr0g wrote:Shyness is not an excuse for anything.
Shyness is not an excuse for anything.
Especially when the solicitors are now being involved.
One last point from me Simon, solictors do not come cheap.
I think you should find out how much this is going to cost before it goes any further.
All points taken, i will consider talking to the neighbours, but i can't help feeling that if their is spikes & trellis's all over the fences what message does that send out to other residents & people wanting to move into the area, like i said before i have been here twelve years & i keep myself to myself & i have never felt threatened by my neighbours.
You should go to the landlord and visit your neighbours together. Before the whole thing escalates.
I've already complained to the landlord last year, AFAIK my neighbours were well aware that they are not allowed to put things on the fence yet they have ignored them & done it anyway.
Painting trellises orange at 2 in the morning is not normal. What is wrong with a trellis anyway ? They don't look offensive, and add to your security as well as your neighbours.
If that is all you have to get worked up about, I'd say you need to get out more.
It is too late now Simon but I think it should have gone something like this.
Speak to your neighbours, speak to your neighbours, speak to your neighbours. No joy, you should get the H/A to enforce their own rules. No joy, you get your local councillor to ensure the H/A enforce their own rules. Escalation then involves your MP and whatever Ministry has any sway with H/A matters. Only then even think about getting a solicitor. They will bleed whatever money they can out of the situation. There is nothing worse than getting into a property dispute, even if originally you may have been in the right.
I am afraid you are on an expensive road going nowhere.
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It might be worth trying to help out your neighbour with their problem. :?
You've said that the only reason they put things on the fence is to keep some local kids out of their garden. Maybe when you speak to them you could suggest asking the kids parents to have a word with their children to stop them from going into the garden. If the children are no longer going into your neighbours garden then there's no longer any need to put anything on the fence to keep them out.
The h/a sent a letter out to everyone about kids climbing on the fence saying that they could be evicted, i don't have a problem with the kids anyway, it's my neighbours i don't like & i wouldn't be surprised if they put the trellis on the fence deliberatly to wind me up because they don't like me & want to take over the back garden.
simonlewis wrote: i wouldn't be surprised if they put the trellis on the fence deliberatly to wind me up because they don't like me & want to take over the back garden.
i wouldn't be surprised if they put the trellis on the fence deliberatly to wind me up because they don't like me & want to take over the back garden.
Nor would I, to be frank.
If your neighbour[s] are contravening the HA's rules and regs, then it is (obviously) the latter's responsibility to uphold / enforce the rules and regs. If the HA does not do so, then the HA, in turn, is in breach of its contract with you.
Therefore, it might be worth writing to the HA, informing it that it is in breach of contract and unless it honours its obligations forthwith, you will sue the HA for breach. Often, such a threat can make an HA spring into action.
What's the name of your HA? I ask because most HAs are actually run by a business process outsourcing company (BPOC) - and I have some inside info re BPOCs' contracts / MOs / protocols... :shhh:
I also think you may have escalated this too quickly, without seeking a quicker, cheaper and more amicable solution.
You say you don't like your neighbours. Is there a reason you dislike them beyond the issue with the fence? Have there been occasions on which your neighbours have behaved aggressively and unreasonably?
I'm trying to be circumspect here; and while you may not feel threatened by kids climbing into back gardens, your neighbours clearly feel differently. What age are they? What doesn't seem threatening to you can be frightening for others. Your neighbours' back garden is within the boundaries of their property and not a public right of way. I therefore don't think it's unreasonable to seek to protect that area from intrusion and potential damage.
That said, your neighbours should have contacted you to explain what they were doing and why. The lack of communication from their end is perhaps one of the reasons you feel aggrieved. However, you don't have to follow their example. By employing a solicitor at this stage, you're likely to remain on bad terms with your neighbours on a long term basis.
Certainly there are times during disputes with neighbours when you have no choice but to go the legal route, though I feel you should exhaust all alternatives first.
We installed a few of these in the garden, and don't seem to have any more problems with local kids...