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RE: iPhone 5

This journalist isn't a fan of Apple at all!  :grin:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/28/apple-rot-starts-with-samsung-lawsuit-win

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I don't think the phone will actually be massively different. Perhaps slightly bigger, but I rather like the screen size currently, it fits in the hand much more nicely than an S3 for example. I mean, the 4S is hardly sluggish, and it's always been apple's way to work more on the software than the hardware. The closed system obviously being both the blessing and the curse of iOS, but however you look at it, it does considerably better with the hardware it's given than an andriod equivalent device. 

As for the price, I'd say it will probably come in around the same price as the 4S is now. 

Apple's main problem is, if it's only going to have one model of it's latest phone, it might end up with a bit of a jack of all trades thing. Almost every other manufacturer has various screen sizes/designs with incredibly similar spec. I'd rather they make one phone that has a nice big screen some people are after, and one with a smaller one that others will want. Not something that isn't the biggest but isn't the nicest to hold.

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apple very rarely invent anything. (since wozniak left anyways) They like to put things together in a nice shiny box and let the marketing do the work.

 

For me, the biggest issue with the new phone isn't going to be the specs, it's ios itself (another thing taken - the name of the operating system!).  It's starting lag quite far behind android and the new version ios6 doesn't so much improve on much, instead it's just taking a lot of the google in built apps and replacing them with apple ones.

 

Be interesting to see if they can pull anything out the bag, but am guessing a bigger screen, better camera, possibly faster cpu, so nothing that's unexpected, new or innovational.  Shame really.

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Prof Hat said it all for me - I just want to access a 'central Juzzie Wuzzie' system and be able to make changes on my Mac, iPads, iPhone that are communal.

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Juzzie Wuzzie wrote:

Prof Hat said it all for me - I just want to access a 'central Juzzie Wuzzie' system and be able to make changes on my Mac, iPads, iPhone that are communal.

I want to be able to access any of my devices and have it update on all of them. Mrs Scene is an Omnifocus fan and it does this on her iMac / iPod (soon to be iPhone I suspect...) which is great.

I do something similar with my v.old Palm Centro and my laptop - but I want it all! I want Phone <-> Tablet <-> Desktop (without compulsory online access, a la Google)

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cheeseboy wrote:

apple very rarely invent anything. (since wozniak left anyways) 

 

They haven't invented ANYTHING.

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Everything Apple has ever done is smarten up (sometimes) an existing product.

 

The jury in the US were mericans backing a merican company, nothing more. The judge in the UK had it right. 

Some of the things Samsung have been punished for should not be patentable at all... bounce back!

 

They are doing exactly what Microsoft did way back when, who rightly got smacked down for bullying and anti-competive behaviour. It's high time Apple got what they deserve. I'd sooner give my money to the Tory party!

 

 

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Every idea comes from something or other. Stealing/copying that's for the courts to decide. 

As for iPhone 5 design and pricing my guess is as follows 

Thinner YES

larger iPhone NO. Although they might make the screen bigger by making better use of the space they have already. I personally believe it's a matter of time before the home button goes replaced by a fancy alternative.

Better camera YES better flash I hope so!

Smaller ports YES

faster hardware inside of course YES

Battery life Im affraid NO. Unless it's that year they anounce a new type of battery that last weeks and weighs next to nothing (You never know we might get lucky) 

Cost Same prices as before sadly Sad although feel free apple to drop the prices Smile 

 

 

 

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bigboss wrote:

As Steve Jobs said, good artists copy & great artists steal. He proudly admitted stealing ideas from others. Who decides who's good & who's great?

The gist of that statement is great artist make ideas their own.  They don't just reproduce what others have done, they add to it, reproduce it in their own style.  Copying is lazy, reinventing is hard.  Take Dyson.  He didn't invent the cyclonic vacuum.  He visited the powder coating factory where his ball barrow was being coated, and they used cyclonic vacuums to collect the waste powder so it could be re-used.  So this tech already existed, but he refactored it in to a new product and revolutionised a market.  Exactly what Apple did with the iPhone.  Samsung is kinda like Hoover in this analogy Blum 3

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If you choose to use your phone as a music player or as a camera it's pretty clear why one might want/need to sync with a computer. Apple are hardly stifling competition merely protecting their own innovation... But let's not get into that.

ROFL

so it's like Apple invented wireless communication between different digital devices?

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I, for one, would like all my devices to communicate nicely together... They aren't forcing me to sync my phone to my computer but it sure is nice bring able to do it wirelessly and automatically if I choose to.

but the problem is that in case of Apple if you want to have your phone to be synced with your iMAc it's either iPhone or nothing. I've always hated this locking away product policy of Apple, that they are only compatible with themselves and nothing else.

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but the problem is that in case of Apple if you want to have your phone to be synced with your iMAc it's either iPhone or nothing. I've always hated this locking away product policy of Apple, that they are only compatible with themselves and nothing else.

 

Sorry, do you think you can't use Samsung or any other brand phone with a Mac?  Or have I missed your point?  I use a Galaxy tab 2 7.0 with my Mac,  drivers are provided by Samsung.  Just like Microsoft expect Samsung to provide drivers.  You can use any phone with a Mac as long as the Mobile vendor can be arsed to write the drivers.

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oldric_naubhoff wrote:

but the problem is that in case of Apple if you want to have your phone to be synced with your iMAc it's either iPhone or nothing. I've always hated this locking away product policy of Apple, that they are only compatible with themselves and nothing else.

Not true at all - clicky.

Apple make their devices simple to sync with each other, but it would be pretty stupid practice not to do that. But if you want to use other devices with a Mac, it's hardly rocket science to do so.

 

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fr0g wrote:

cheeseboy wrote:

apple very rarely invent anything. (since wozniak left anyways) 

 

They haven't invented ANYTHING.

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Everything Apple has ever done is smarten up (sometimes) an existing product.

 

The jury in the US were mericans backing a merican company, nothing more. The judge in the UK had it right. 

Some of the things Samsung have been punished for should not be patentable at all... bounce back!

 

They are doing exactly what Microsoft did way back when, who rightly got smacked down for bullying and anti-competive behaviour. It's high time Apple got what they deserve. I'd sooner give my money to the Tory party!

 

 

 

I'm sorry, but that's an outrageous quote. Apple have contributed an awful lot to the world of technology, even if it's not quite as much as they'd like to think.

 

They may not have invented the tablet, but I don't think android tablets would be anything like as popular as they are without the iPad to popularise the tablet platform. sSame goes for smartphones. And it's all very well and good saying someone came up with the idea first, but the idea is only half of the business plan. Microsoft had tablets ages ago, anyone remember them? No. 

 

Also, it has taken android a good while to catch up, earlier attempts at android phones were pretty awful. A friend of mine still has a 3GS and granted, it's not as quick as the latest phones, but still as useable as ever. The same cannot be said for my old HTC hero, however.

 

They invented the mouse, they played a huge part in the capacitive touch screen. Multi-touch gesture control, as well as the computing contrivutions they made in the early days. 

 

Whilst I too believe they are being a little rash with the law suits, to say they haven't invented anything is a little harsh. 

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They popularised the mouse, but they didn't invent it.  They made it viable however, as they were the first to make it useable and affordable.  Noticing a pattern here...

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Paul Hobbs wrote:

They don't just reproduce what others have done, they add to it, reproduce it in their own style.  

Not always; notification bar & OTA updates are just 2 examples. Agreed that Apple has revolutionised the market & should be credited for it as well. Mobile phones were stagnating until then (I blame Nokia for it, who had the capability to make significantly better phones, but was content to make only slightly better phones with each product refresh).

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Hmm, now if you could build an iPhone with the strength of a Nokia 3210, that would be something...  

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