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RE: Iphone 5 costs 207$ (127Pound) to make

Have you factored in the cost of all those adverts, shipping, packaging, taxes etc.? Besides, Apple is not a charity. It's in the market to make money. It has spent a lot on research in making the software & hardware. It's foolish to simply consider the hardware cost. Even the cost of manufacturing has not been taken into account.

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RE: Iphone 5 costs 127Pounds to make and Ifools pay 529 pounds

So components are about 25% of the total.

Be interesting to see what the equivalent number is for various hifi brands. The high end will be a lot 'worse' than that in many cases. Think re-badged Oppo's, imported American kit where dollar = pound, add-on power supplies (PSX-R?!) Etc.

iFools? HiFiFools? (I'm both) doh!

Edit - just checked, a Samsung Galaxy 3 isn't much cheaper, and presumably they supply the parts to themselves chaper than to Apple, so the markup will be similar. How sad am I pointing that out though, going to all that trouble to defend the largest corporation in the world. Especially as the 'same margin' argument is most certainly not valid for computers, which are daylight robbery. There, I've said it. Note to self - get a life

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Now add Shipping , the two

Now add Shipping , the two Taxes from supplier and retail and then split the Profits from supplier to retail, it doesn't end up being that great as it first seems .

You will find this with all none UK built electrical equipment , very cheap labour = higher profits its nothing new

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RE: Iphone 5 costs 207$ (127Pound) to make

 

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Do you think samsung don't do the same as Apple?

Samsung sub contract there TV parts out to small companys who are just as bad as Apples Factorys

My wifes mother used to work for one in the Czech Republic who made circuit boards for Sony , Samsung and Panasonic TV's = 50 hours + aweek for 400 euros a month

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RE: Now add Shipping , the two

Apple state in their tax returns they make about 50% on iPhones.  Less margin than the clothes you're wearing or the beer you drink.

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RE: Iphone 5 costs 127Pound) to make and Ifools pay 529

6threplicant - where did you get that emoticon, brilliant? And so much more succinct than my waffling

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RE: Iphone 5 costs 207$ (127Pound) to make and Ifools pay

 

What price would people not be ifools to pay? I would like a precise answer with full reasoning please. 

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RE: Iphone 5 costs 207$ (127Pound) to make

6th.replicant wrote:

 

Bored Finger Drumming

I got admit this is driving me mad , i come to WHF to read and get good tips and try to help other ( if i can ) but i find myself annoyed with certain people because all they want to do is bad mouth things because they can copy and paste from other websites and think how clever they are

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RE: Iphone 5 costs 207$ (127Pound) to make

bigboss wrote:

Have you factored in the cost of all those adverts, shipping, packaging, taxes 

Patent trolling   legal fees  Smile

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Take a long hard look at the HiFi in your signature...exactly how much do you think that lot cost to make?  Absolutely nowhere near the retail costs. That surely makes you just as much a fool, by your own reasoning?

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I wonder if all your comrades

I wonder if all your comrades in Utopia think like that too. Dont be so naive, thats how business functions, you pay some money and you make a choice. Just because its not your choice, does not necessarily make it wrong. 

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RE: Iphone 5 costs 207$ (127Pound) to make and Ifools pay

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen so many leap to the (albeit mostly indirect) defense of Apple on this forum before!

 

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philipjohnwright wrote:

6threplicant - where did you get that emoticon, brilliant? And so much more succinct than my waffling

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RE: Iphone 5 costs 207$ (127Pound) to make and Ifools pay

professorhat wrote:

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen so many leap to the (albeit mostly indirect) defense of Apple on this forum before!

 

It's all about maintaining a balance. Extreme opinions are never good.  Smile

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