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Better sound from iPad using camera kit and USB DAC?

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I have been reading that you can take the digital signal direct from the iPad using the USB conector from the camera kit. This means you can use a USB dac to improve sound quality (see link below).

http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/discuss/feedback/newsletter/2011/06/1/ipad...

Does anyone have experience of doing this? If so can you use any USB dac like the fiio e10 or 17? Seems like a very good way to get high quality sound on the move?
If this works I think it would be that one extra feature that would let me justify getting one!!

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RE: Better sound from iPad using camera kit and USB DAC?

Sounds plausible.  No way I'm paying 25 quid to find out though...Smile

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John Duncan wrote:

No way I'm paying 25 quid to find out though...Smile

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005KG7BB0/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_r...

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bigboss wrote:

John Duncan wrote:

No way I'm paying 25 quid to find out though...Smile

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005KG7BB0/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_r...

I'm not sure it's shiny enough...

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RE: Better sound from iPad using camera kit and USB DAC?

Oh it is shiny! Check the 2nd pic. It's not called "Shinntto" for nothing  Smile

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It's not called "Shinntto" for nothing

It's called something similar in some of the reviews...

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excellent!

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RE: Better sound from iPad using camera kit and USB DAC?

Ooh, I bought one of those 2 weeks ago. I'm off to try my speakers now. I'll report back.

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RE: Better sound from iPad using camera kit and USB DAC?

Well my £5.59 Shinnto adaptor works perfectly with my USB speakers. I am very happy. Thanks for the tip.

Also works fine with my cameras SD card. 

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RE: Better sound from iPad using camera kit and USB DAC?

Glad it's been of use! Still wondering if there are many portable DACs work in a similar way. There is a thread on headfi about it but it seems that often there s a need for an external power supply as the DACs drain too much power from the iPad and it is a bit inconsistent weather it works or not.

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RE: Better sound from iPad using camera kit and USB DAC?

bay 24 is right. I've just tried my E7, and the iPad says it uses too much power, so it can't be used on the move I'm afraid.

I have excellent results using the camera kit into my CDQ's USB DAC using lossless files, I actually think it sounds better than my Squeezebox Touch using coax.

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Fisherking 145 wrote:

bay 24 is right. I've just tried my E7, and the iPad says it uses too much power, so it can't be used on the move I'm afraid.

I have excellent results using the camera kit into my CDQ's USB DAC using lossless files, I actually think it sounds better than my Squeezebox Touch using coax.

Thanks for confirming! I am not sure it is that simple though as I believe that it may work depending on which iOS you are using. I would quite like to know if the rpac works, seems like it could fit the bill!

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RE: Better sound from iPad using camera kit and USB DAC?

Hi there,

 

Rpac does not work with my ipad2 sadly.  It might work in conjunction with a separate powered USB hub but I was looking for a portable option. 

 

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RE: Better sound from iPad using camera kit and USB DAC?

Hi there,

 

Rpac does not work with my ipad2 sadly.  It might work in conjunction with a separate powered USB hub but I was looking for a portable option. 

 

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RE: Better sound from iPad using camera kit and USB DAC?

wilsmusic wrote:

Hi there,

 

Rpac does not work with my ipad2 sadly.  It might work in conjunction with a separate powered USB hub but I was looking for a portable option. 

 

Thanks for the confirmation. That's a shame!

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RE: Better sound from iPad using camera kit and USB DAC?

The Fiio E7 works fine, but you have to set USB CHG = OFF in the menu first. And it sounds great to me!