16GB not enough for retina display-optimised iPad apps

Indeed. My 64GB iPad 2 gets full, too! 

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•   It takes 141 steps to make an iPhone, and the devices are essentially all handmade
• It takes five days and 325 hands to make a single iPad
• Foxconn produces 300k iPad camera modules per day
• Foxconn workers pay for their own food - about $.70 per meal, and work 12 hour shifts
• Workers who live in the dorms sleep six to eight a room, and pay $17.50 a month to do so
• Workers make $1.78 an hour
• New employees at Foxconn undergo three days of training and "team building" exercises before they begin
• The FLA (which Apple brought in to audit Foxconn) is interested in whether or not workers will look up at visitors in a factory - if they'll be "willing to look at curiosities"
• Apple paid $250,000 to join the FLA, and is paying for its audit
• Louis Woo, when asked if he would accept Apple demanding double pay for employees replied "Why not?"

During the show Weir also spoke with Fair Labor Association president Auret van Heerden, following his inspection of the factory. Heerden said that Foxconn's facilities are ‘first class’ and ‘way above the norm'.

Apple is the first technology company to join the FLA. The iPhone-maker paid $250,000 to join, according to Nightline’s report.

Full report here

 http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/1255584/apples_iphone_and_ipad_handmade_by_178_an_hour_workers_says_nightline.html

Do you not kow that being able to have an SD Slot or a USB slot would give lots of extra storage and flexibility then and so posibly avoid paying rip off prices for 32 and 64 g models?

Your signature is 'Man on a budget'. Don't make me laugh

If Apple are anything...they are not Mugs.

"You say Apple is ripping people off? Would you buy from someone you felt that was ripping you off? Then its simple don't buy one.

I would buy one if i had the cash and i wouldn't feel ripped off".

So no one has the right to have a go at a company then...even if one thinks the company is ripping people off?

I don't buy that.

When you can afford to buy a new I Pad though, please spare a thought for the workers being paid ONE DOLLER 78 CENTS an hour while living in a Dormatory sleeping six to eight people.

I won't comment on the living conditions, but with regards to salary, all I can say is the in countries like India & China, this is not an insignificant salary. While working as a doctor in India, I was paid around 70p per hour equivalent 9 years ago. But it was enough to maintain a "higher middle class" status. Today, the same post in the hospital pays a salary equivalent to £1.20 per hour. Everything is cheap there; food, accommodation, clothes etc. so we cannot directly compare their salaries with those in UK & US.

$1.78 in China is not like $1.78 in the united states. What's the minimum wage in China? What are the tax laws? What's the working culture?

I agree entirely, I imagine if you compare the living conditions of said employees and the factory workers of England, or what's left of them anyway, you'd find an they were pretty similar, in regards to buying your own food, I do that? Is that not the norm?

Just looking at some of the Samsung CRTs that are sold in India (they sell a range of 36 different CRT models there). They cost between £60 - £220 (for 14" to 29" models respectively).

Given that there are 36 CRT model variations, from just one manufacturer, then I assume they are popular.

From Bigboss's figures it would seem a basic, small TV could be purchased for the equivalent of about 1 week's doctor's wages.

A 51" Plasma however would cost at least £850 (68,000 INR). So it seems they would only be afforded by some very well-off people. Unlike the UK where 50" Plasmas seem to be everywhere nowadays (if these forums are anything to go by).

Exactly. The average size TV sold in India is 21 inches. That's the most popular size there, & gradually increasing to 25 inches. In UK, it's 37-40 inches.

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I see that a 32 Gig minature SD Card can be got on Amazon for £18.80

http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDQM-032G-B35-microSDHC-32GB-Card/dp/B003HIWHN0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1332032738&sr=8-3

And yet an I Pad 2 is priced at £399 for a 32 Gig model and £479 for a 64 Gig Model.

And with no SD card option I repeat, big Con  I say.

Apple know what they are doing.

Rip off their Workers with low live in a Dormatory Wages (Know wonder somee of them throw themselves off the roof)  1 Doller 78 cents an hour.....

And then Rip Off the Customers. 

But then...some do not seem to mind that!

While I appreciate that it is difficult comparing like with like, the absolute poverty that these people suffer just cannot be imagined here in England.

Neither can it be justified.

Here we are sitting in our nice warm living rooms tapping away at our fancy Computers and Laptops.....looking at our Big Screen TVs while the workers hug each other in the dormatory trying to keep warm while likes of Apple and other big corporates screw the workers into the ground and do not give a toss about the workers or living conditions.

Why do you think so many want to come here to live?.....that is if they can escape of course.

I'm intrigued why boozercruiser is offering arguements againt apple and their practices whilst posting about new deals on the iPad 2...

Please do not be intrigued any longer M8. Please allow me to explain.

If I where to totally carry through my objections to how a lot of big businesses conduct themselves then I would probably hardly buy or use anything. 

Everyday we are ripped off and overcharged by the Utility Companys like Gas and Electricity,Banks,  phone, councils etc. etc. etc.

Most of the clothing we wear and the food we eat is made or produced by poor downtrodden souls  in the sweat shops of China, Taiwan, Pakistan and all of the other poor sodden parts of the planet.

Even if I wanted to carry my Principles to the max and not be a hypocrit by not buying a ruddy thing from all above companies  and organisations it  is mission impossible to avoid doing so.

In any case, this lovely Forum gives us the opportunity to have a rant if one is minded to, and try to save some people cash at the same time.

I will continue to try and do that, even though some issues and companies hiss me off.

In the meantime, please let us spare a thought for the poor sad individuals who are instumental in allowing us to lead our life of luxury while we are  paying out for the latest overpriced  Rip off I Pad!

+1.

Very nicely said!

Taiwan? Where have you been for the last 30 years?  Infant mortality for instance (always a good measure of living standards) is better than the European Union average and far better than in the USA. Life expectancy has shot up to 75 (men) and 81 (women).

Taiwanese living standards have overtaken those in Japan in the last couple of years.

Even China has seen the number of people living in 'absolute poverty' drop from 85 percent of it's total population to 16 percent since 1971 (as measured by external agencies not it's own figures) and the trend continues.

How much of the report on living conditions is actually true?

Check this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/9149593/This-American-Life-r...