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If ppi was of no relevance then an sd tv would be as sharp as a hd tv. But of course they're not. But once a ppi has been reached-in relation to viewing distance and screen size, that makes pixels impossible to see, no gains can be had from a higher ppi. That's why 4k2k is pointless. 

I disagree, and didnt say it was of no relevance, that would be dumb. But screens are getting bigger. There is a clear difference even to me with my obviously average eyesight between 720 and 1080 on my 55" screen, sitting about 10 ft away.

4k2k will be worth having when 55" is the norm and people are watching 60" + screens or projectors (which they will).

It's one of the reasons I hate the cinema...the poor quality of the picture compared to blueray. I watched "Inception" at the flicks, then on BR recently, and the home experience was far better imo. Much (much) better picture quality.

 

SD is very low ppi, so it's obvious HD will be better... ppi on most smart phones (even low spec) is way higher than on say a 17" laptop.

But it's all relevant to distance and screen size, so a laptop (with its far bigger screen) doesn't need the ppi of a 4.3in smartphone. 

Also, if you can't see pixels now on your 55 in tv (on 1080p content) you still won't see them on a 55in 4k2k tv. Not being able to do so won't make the picture better, though you might think it would after spending probably double what your current tv cost  Smile

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Also, if you can't see pixels now on your 55 in tv (on 1080p content) you still won't see them on a 55in 4k2k tv. Not being able to do so won't make the picture better, though you might think it would after spending probably double what your current tv cost  Smile

 

I can't see the pixels, but I can tell the PQ differences between SD, 720p and 1080p.

4K2k would probably give me a little extra. But in 5, 10 years when I upgrade again, the screen will be that much bigger too.

For now I'm happy with 1080P, and even less for most things.

For me, a 4.3 " 800x480 phone is enough and for now 1080p video is enough, but I personally think there is more scope for actual quality gain on the TV side than on the phone side. I can't wait to ogle the new 55" LG OLED TV Smile

Look at the Nokia Lumia 800. It has I think the nicest screen of any phone I've seen (subjectively). It is a bit small for me (3.8"), but its 252 ppi is more than enough for me personally.

The iPhone screen is pretty amazing too, but would I prefer it over an S2. Not really, even if it was running android (just to get any perceived anti-apple bias out of the way). I prefer the build quality of the iPhone, but the screensize of the S2. 

But then it could depend if I get a tablet. Maybe running a tablet and a phone, then the phone could be smaller? 

Sorry I'm thinking out loud here Smile

 

 

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Have a look at this trailer on youtube on your phone (in HD) , at 24 seconds there's a pan of Gotham city at night,  now i've watched this vid on nearly every high end smartphone out there, and it looks best on the Galaxy Nexus (HD screen) and the iPhone, where you can see all the lights on in the various rooms in the skyscrapers (tiny on a phone).

Try it on most other phones that have less ppi and you see less lights, that's because of the lack of pixels. Jagged text for the same reason. Anyhow it'll not be a problem on this years phones.

And for the record, the image on the Nexus was better IMO, because of the deeper blacks and bigger screen  Smile

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Have a look at this trailer on youtube on your phone (in HD) , at 24 seconds there's a pan of Gotham city at night,  now i've watched this vid on nearly every high end smartphone out there, and it looks best on the Galaxy Nexus (HD screen) and the iPhone, where you can see all the lights on in the various rooms in the skyscrapers (tiny on a phone).

Try it on most other phones that have less ppi and you see less lights, that's because of the lack of pixels. Jagged text for the same reason. Anyhow it'll not be a problem on this years phones.

And for the record, the image on the Nexus was better IMO, because of the deeper blacks and bigger screen  Smile

 

It looks great on my phone, although I wouldn't want to sit through a film on a tiny 4.3 inch screen either way! Smile

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I prefer the build quality of the iPhone, but the screensize of the S2. 

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/android/iphone-4s-vs-samsung-galaxy-s2-drop-test

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I was also reading this extract from a book review (again, no zoom, using  landscape* and from tabletop distance)...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/9088694/Capital-by-John-Lanchester-Exclusive-extract.html

I don't think I have 'golden eyes'.

You DO have golden eyes...at least compared to me ;)

I coundn't read that even if it was printed text.

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"all"? I don't own a Galaxy S2, so it isn't "Good new" (sic) for me, it's just new.

News then. It's Pedant of the Week Award! Laughing "Good News for all Galaxy S2 Owners". There. Happy?

Good guide here to the difference between Gingerbread and ICS.

 

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The_Lhc wrote:
"all"? I don't own a Galaxy S2, so it isn't "Good new" (sic) for me, it's just new.

News then. It's Pedant of the Week Award! Laughing "Good News for all Galaxy S2 Owners". There. Happy?


Took you long enough, have yourself a "hyperbole of the week" award.
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Just upgraded to ICS, be aware your icons on the home pages get removed (the programmes are still present in the Applications sections - you need to copy the icons/widgets over again...)

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Good advice, Colin. Thank you. Smile

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Thanks Colin for pulling the thread back on track (after having had to wade through 2 1/2 pages of pointless debate again  :wall: )

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No sign yet on my unlocked S2..... :wall:

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Nor vodafone...

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3 has released theirs. O2 'by end of March'. Cool All here.

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I'm finding that my S2 battery now lasts 2 days (was barely making to end of a day before the ICS upgrade)

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