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Google's new privacy policy....time to ditch Android? How about Windows 8?
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I'm not comfortable with Google's new privacy policy for targeted advertising. It will feel as if "Big Brother is watching" wherever I go with my phone! I'm thinking of moving from Android in the next few months. Wife has an iPhone, so I don't want one. I like to have different ecosystems in my household, so I can enjoy the best of all.

Windows 8 looks promising.......any thoughts on it?

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You can download the Consumer Preview at the moment - am having a play with it on a VM on my Mac. It's going to take some getting used to - not sure I'm a big fan as yet. I can understand it for tablets, but it's just weird using it with a keyboard and mouse (that's my first impression anyway). I know the desktop is still there and easily accessible, but it's clear MS are trying to push the Metro interface for most use.

One great thing is Pirates Love Daisies - it's a little free game you can download from the Windows Store (now where did they get that idea from  Wink ) - quite addictive (though I see now you can just play it through a web browser here).

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I can see Windows 8 working well in ultrabooks that can also be used as tablets.....something like Asus Transformer Prime. What I like is one OS across all devices; laptop, tablet & phone. Microsoft Office will attract most people; this alone is probably enough to ensure Windows 8 is a success in all platforms if implemented well.

I'm tempted to download it on my laptop.....will decide in a couple of days.

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One great thing is Pirates Love Daisies - it's a little free game you can download from the Windows Store (now where did they get that idea from  Wink ) - quite addictive (though I see now you can just play it through a web browser here).

Nice!  Smile

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I'm running Windows 8 CR on my laptop and I'm liking it more and more. At first, the lack of a start button on the desktop side made me fume, but you soon learn how to do things in another way. 

I like it.

 

I also like the current Windows (7.5) phone software. It's probably the smoothest OS around at the moment on a phone.

However, I'm not too concerned with the privacy policy. We've been targeted with advertising for years now anyway, and if I'm going to get adverts I'd rather have ones that are useful.

I'm getting a new phone soon. Will it be the new excellent looking HTC One series, or the Nokia 900 winphone? hmm.

With the winphone, it's ultra smooth, super easy to use and (probably) the battery will last a little longer.

But I think I may miss the configurability and power of Android. I'm running a custom ROM on my rooted phone and I do like to play.

Rooting and using custom ROMs on Windows may be illegal.. ;(

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You can always run it in a VM - this software is free for Windows and should let you install it without affecting the rest of your PC.

I'm not sold at all on the unified OS for all devices. Sure, it keeps things simple, but in my mind, what works on a tablet doesn't necessarily work on a PC and vice versa (apart from as you say, the hybrid devices - though these are essentially just tablets with an optional keyboard). People for a while have been saying Apple are working towards a unified OS, and whilst I see they're doing unified applications with Mountain Lion, it's still very much a different beast from iOS (and needs to be in my opinion). I don't use my Apple PCs the same way I do my iPhone (or an iPad if I had one).

Until all notebooks come with built in touch screens, and touch screen monitors are commonly used on all desktops, I believe we need different OSes for phones and tablets and PCs. Once we get to that stage (and it's coming I'm sure), I can see a unified OS making sense then. But it's a long way off.

My ideal PC is the one I'm looking to setup on my current Macbook Air - using VMware Fusion to seamlessly run the few Windows applications I need on OS X. At the moment, Office for Mac is good, but it's not as good as Office for Windows (MS would be stupid to make it so). So if I can run Office 2010 for Windows on my Macbook (which I think I can, I just need to get it sorted), then I'll be set.

NB - for the avoidance of any confusion, the above is my own opinion and personal preference. I appreciate others may have other opinions and preferences, and am not saying mine are in any way correct and others are in any way wrong. Just thought that was worth making clear after some other recent threads  Wink

 

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Thanks Prof., I'm running Win 8 on VM. Didn't know how to get back to the start screen after viewing messages.....figured it out eventually! It's very different & certainly very interesting! Have to play a bit more to form an opinion. But early thoughts, I wouldn't mind a Windows phone! There are decent things there which won't make me miss Android that much.

What's the startup time of Windows 8? Will it be instant on?

I suspect MacBook Air & various ultrabooks will all have a touch screen interface within a year or two. The technology is there. That would be my ideal next laptop.

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The HTC Titan is a lovely phone, it's Windows 7.5 OS is very slick and pretty easy to use, however i don't think it's quite there yet, there's no real customisation options beyond changing the colour of the tiles, and the app store is sparse and not very well designed which makes the Android Sensation XL a better bet IMO.

If HTC release a Windows 8 version of the forthcoming high spec One X, and they address a few of the niggling issues with W 7.5, and get more apps out there, then i think it could be a winner and the first Windows phone to really take off.

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I've heard that the current Windows 7/7.5 phones will not be upgradeable to Windows 8. I'm not too fussed about customisation. Even the iPhone cannot be customised. If I go for Windows, it'll be a Nokia. If I choose to stay with Android, I'll go for Sony Xperia S. I haven't been entirely happy with my HTC Sensation, & I've never been a fan of Samsung phones.

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fr0g wrote:
However, I'm not too concerned with the privacy policy. We've been targeted with advertising for years now anyway, and if I'm going to get adverts I'd rather have ones that are useful.

Couldn't agree more, Google (and everyone else) have been collecting this stuff forever, the new policy is not really any different and certainly no reason to change on its own, they already know everything about you!

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bigboss wrote:

I've heard that the current Windows 7/7.5 phones will not be upgradeable to Windows 8. I'm not too fussed about customisation. Even the iPhone cannot be customised. If I go for Windows, it'll be a Nokia. If I choose to stay with Android, I'll go for Sony Xperia S. I haven't been entirely happy with my HTC Sensation, & I've never been a fan of Samsung phones.

The Sensation is an odd phone, the camera flash won't work half the time even when the battery isn't too low, which is infuriating, the screen while being higher res than that of the XL, is not as good IMO, neither is the camera, and it's no faster than the XL despite being dual core.

Judging by the impressive XL, i think the new flagship HTCs will be very good and i certainly wouldn't rule them out on the basis of any experience with the standard Sensation.

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fr0g wrote:
However, I'm not too concerned with the privacy policy. We've been targeted with advertising for years now anyway, and if I'm going to get adverts I'd rather have ones that are useful.

Couldn't agree more, Google (and everyone else) have been collecting this stuff forever, the new policy is not really any different and certainly no reason to change on its own, they already know everything about you!

Google's main revenue is advertising, so it will be more aggressive in sharing user information than Microsoft or Apple who mainly earn from software & hardware. Google hasn't been able to get rid of all the fake websites "selling" stuff when you google for products. In fact, a lot of them feature prominently in the top 3 searches, including sponsored ones. I'm not confident that my personal information will not be passed on to such spammers. It's true that I cannot completely prevent it, but I will want to protect something as personal as a phone.

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bigboss wrote:

I've heard that the current Windows 7/7.5 phones will not be upgradeable to Windows 8. I'm not too fussed about customisation. Even the iPhone cannot be customised. If I go for Windows, it'll be a Nokia. If I choose to stay with Android, I'll go for Sony Xperia S. I haven't been entirely happy with my HTC Sensation, & I've never been a fan of Samsung phones.

The Sensation is an odd phone, the camera flash won't work half the time even when the battery isn't too low, which is infuriating, the screen while being higher res than that of the XL, is not as good IMO, neither is the camera, and it's no faster than the XL despite being dual core.

Judging by the impressive XL, i think the new flagship HTCs will be very good and i certainly wouldn't rule them out on the basis of any experience with the standard Sensation.

The Sensation was HTC's flagship phone for a few months until the XL was launched. I'm actually more annoyed at their poor customer service. Try contacting HTC to report a fault & you'll know what I mean.

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Android as a software is brilliant. Phone makers are concentrating on putting more powerful processors & increasing the memory. What often gets sidelined is call quality & battery life. In the past, Sony & Nokia have satisfied me the most in these areas. I'm expecting similar from their Android & Windows offerings.

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Yes battery life is a problem with many of them alright, the HTCs aren't the best in this regard, the Galaxy Nexus is also very thirsty. The best phone for call quality that i've had was the HTC Titan.

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Firefox has a trick or two up its sleeve  Smile

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mozilla-firefox-launches-collusion-add-on-enables-users-tracking-article-1.1031905

Others will hopefully follow suit.

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