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Re post 13: Ah right. Well it sounds like there's unlikely to be anything substantially better at a similar price than the nexus 7, which seems fairly cutting edge. And android competition is unlikely to force the price of the nexus down as it's already being sold at or below cost. So I probably will just go with the nexus, subject to the announcement on Monday.
Re 14: presumably they wouldn't do that in this season of tablets tho? (If they did it at all.) Undercutting price might also be impossible as asus doesn't make money on the apps.
On a balance, you're right. 32GB Nexus 7 at £199 (if those rumours are true) is unlikely to be beaten by anything else on the market at the moment.
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This was exactly my friend's sentiment as he bought the 64GB iPad only 3 weeks prior to the new iPad announcement.
Releasing a 32GB version at the same price is bound to hurt existing Nexus 7 owners.
My suggestion to BenLaw was based on the fact that the 16Gb version dropped in price within a couple of months of launch (from the resellers). So even the 32GB tablet may come down in price before Christmas (although if it's very popular, which it's likely to be, then the prices will stay firm & there could be shortages).
TBH I'm not that fussed - what I use it for doesn't really need storage per se - if I want a whole load of films on a tablet I have the 32gig iPad.
There was some discussion in the US about whether there'd be any compensation for those who'd bought 16gb versions. Anyway, didn't everyone get £25 of vouchers or app credits or some such? Making it only £175.
Fwiw I think a pre-Xmas reduction unlikely given how competitive the pricing is and, as you say, its likely popularity.
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You're right, they got $25 of freebies on the app store in the US. IThe tablet market has exploded in the last few months which is good in many ways but the market is moving so quickly that whatever you buy today may be old news next week.
Personally I have an oldish Acer laptop, Ipad 3 and a Samsung Galaxy S3 phone which gives me a spread of all the platforms each of which has their strengths and weaknesses.
The Nexus 7 32GB for £200 sounds hard to beat though at that price point - very quick and very slick. I think Apple has lost their way since the passing of Steve Jobs.
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One of the reasons I wouldn't buy an iPad mini at the moment is the ratio of price to speed of change in the sector. I'm guessing that ipad mini 2 will be a big improvement, especially the screen resolution. I wouldn't want to spend £350 and be massively out of date in 6-12 months, whereas £200 is a bit less to commit.
There's no clear path from Apple with new products coming out seemingly at random. The iPhone 5 was a big disappointment to many (I waited to see whether it would be a major step forward from my iPhone 4) - I ended up going to the Galaxy S3 and have been delighted with it.
The new iPad (the big one with the new dock connector) just seems to have been thrown in as an after thought, the new mini iPad is a step back tech wise from the bigger iPad and seems to have been concocted to try to compete with the Nexus 7 on the Xmas run up. It lacks the processor, memory size, screen res, connectivity and costs a whole lot more.
I agree there's no clear path, although I'm not sure I put it down to losing their way post-Jobs. They've been behind the last two leaps in their sector, the (putting it neutrally) popularisation of smartphones and tablets. They didn't see that 7" tablets would work, but like politicians it must be better for them to admit their mistake and join in rather than persist in an error just to save face. So what do we expect them to do? It's impossible to expect constant innovation, and I don't see any other companies innovating particularly (maybe windows surface?). So like the rest, it's incremental improvements for devices at a variety of sizes. Having said that, no company can continue to thrive by taking their customers for granted. Many people will be prepared to pay a premium for the (actual and perceived) better quality and 'cool' of an apple product, but competitors will close that gap and customers are discerning and will put a price on the style gap. I would have paid a premium, but not a £150 premium.
I don't think Apple have lost their way since Steve Jobs passing away. Yes, it would have affected them a bit. Historically, Apple have excelled in innovation and have succeeded by pioneering different sectors (MP3 players, smartphones & tablets). Competition could never catch up with the iPod, but emergence of smartphones have caused a decline in MP3 player sales. Competition has caught up in the smartphone sector.
Apple has a clear lead in tablets at the moment, but it does feel threatened by Microsoft & Nexus 7, & was forced to respond to competition prematurely. Based on my initial impressions with Windows 8, Apple has a strong reason to worry. The minority of initial negative reaction of Windows 8 is mainly due to users not yet accustomed to to the new UI. This won't be the case in a month or so.
Google's event cancelled due to the hurricane but apparently on sale from tonight or tomorrow: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/48207/32gb-nexus-7-release-date-uk
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Yep, and on currys / pc world website. If I get time I'll pop in tomorrow and have a look, buy if I'm happy with it. I think it's unlikely to be discounted over the next 4-6 weeks, do you agree?
Agreed. I'll feel guilty to buy it for any cheaper (if you know any Google employee though, you'll get 20% discount if they order it for you)!
Unfortunately I don't move in those circles! Do you know one who can sort that for me?
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