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Speaker cables

Hello

 I am using PMC twenty 24 speakers which, I am running via a Arcam CD 36 FMJ. Arcam C30 per amp and a P35 power amp. The cable I am using at present is Rega, the flat type with the see through sleeve. Before this I was using Naim cable, NAC A5. The stiff hard to use cable, so much so that the banana plug and cable have broken in the shrink wrap on a couple of connections. At present the speakers are bi wired, and the room is a standard terraced house 14 by 12 foot room with chimney breast, and laminate floor. I have been told that I will get a large improvement all round with Chord Epic twin cable. At £40 plus per metre I hope so. I would also not be bi wiring at that price, needing  four 3m runs. I would be grateful if anyone has any suggestions for cable for my setup. I am also told there is no appreciable gains to bi wiring. Thanks in advance. David

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RE: Speaker cables

i think you should go to your local hifi dealer and ask for a demo.your system is a bit out of my league to comment but  what you have been told sounds right

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Hi David

There are many threads on speaker cable on the site so just do a quick search.

The most important is to compare cables yourself using a blind test, (You do not know which cable is in use or even if it was changed from the previous test) as that is the only way to make a decision.

Everybody that tests this way you will find  cannot tell any difference from the quality cable as used in film and production studios (2.5mm sq. OFC copper) and any of the more expensive  (And so called special) cables. (Thus you can save yourself a considerable amount of money)

Remember only you can decide if there is any difference, just make sure (Without exception) that you test using a proper blind test.

Hope this helps

Bill

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You should also try Telurium Q Black.

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CnoEvil wrote:

You should also try Telurium Q Black.

 +1 You will be very surprised how good it is I was

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abacus wrote:

Hi David

There are many threads on speaker cable on the site so just do a quick search.

The most important is to compare cables yourself using a blind test, (You do not know which cable is in use or even if it was changed from the previous test) as that is the only way to make a decision.

Everybody that tests this way you will find  cannot tell any difference from the quality cable as used in film and production studios (2.5mm sq. OFC copper) and any of the more expensive  (And so called special) cables. (Thus you can save yourself a considerable amount of money)

Remember only you can decide if there is any difference, just make sure (Without exception) that you test using a proper blind test.

Hope this helps

Bill

 

Or if there is a difference, is it really a 40 quid a metre difference  ?

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Do not spend too much as there is LITTLE difference in quality of sound...... folk are , it seems... being led up  the garden path with many a cable  !

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Alantiggger wrote:

Do not spend too much as there is LITTLE difference in quality of sound...... folk are , it seems... being led up  the garden path with many a cable  !

That's assuming the person trying the cables is completely under the spell of the person making the recommendation.

Nobody is ordering the OP to buy a cable, but making suggestions for him to try.

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RE: Speaker cables

When I demoed the speakers, I asked what cable was being used. I was told Chord Odessy, but I would like to try two or three different cables at home if possible. Thanks for your reply.

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Thanks Toyota Man and CnoEvil

i have been looking at reviews for these cables, and will try a demo of them.

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David-L wrote:

When I demoed the speakers, I asked what cable was being used. I was told Chord Odessy, but I would like to try two or three different cables at home if possible. Thanks for your reply.

Although I have heard worthwhile differences in (certain) cables, I thoroughly agree with everyone who has said that this needs to be assessed on a VFM basis. IMO You should never spend more on cables than would bring greater benefits, if spent elsewhere in the system.

 

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Graham slee Spatia speaker cables are outstanding and much cheaper than epic and tellerium q but still on that level of performance

Epic is good but you need great room acoustics to hear all the detail / soundstaging otherwise they can sound harsh I have owned it.

 

You can get home demo of the Spatia as well visit the GSP Audio forum - it's seriously impressive cable if you have everything setup right 

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David-L wrote:
I am using PMC twenty 24 speakers...

As far as I recall, the guy that designs and voices PMC speakers (is it Pete Thomas?) uses Van Damme cables, which are simple, inexpensive, good quality OFC - which cost as little as a couple of pounds per meter on Amazon - probably not very different to your Rega cables. I know of people with top-end PMC speakers (IB2/MB2 etc) who've tried very, very expensive speaker cables with their PMC's, yet always seem to come back to Van Damme. The common view they hold is that as PMC speakers were designed with it, voiced with it, tested and demo'd with it, if your system doesn't sound right with it, then there's probably something wrong elsewhere in your system. It's just an opinion.

 

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Thanks wireman yes I think you are right it is Pete Thomas. I will give it a try at that price I can afford to buy them and sell them on if I do not particularly like them.

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 Thanks ellisdj this is another cable I  can try on demo. Once again everyone thanks for your input and help.

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I use Van Damme cable with my PMC Twenty 21s, and it hits the spot.  See no reason to spend a penny more.  I'm using this stuff:

http://www.van-damme.com/25.html

Many others use the blue or black cable, presumably because of the more hard wearing cable jacket, giving the blue or black colour.  However, when I researched this, the cable I'm using is (I think) a higher purity of copper.  If that matters to you. Smile   No idea if it improves the sound, but, heck, the stuff is so inexpensive (I paid about £3.50 per metre - higher guage stuff comes in about £7.00 per metre, which may be more suitable for the floor standing 24s) that I don't think you can go wrong.

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