Duplicate post - removed. Sorry.
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Hi-Fi Cables: Van Damme LC UPOFC (4x2m) + interconnects (x2); DMN solid core interconnect, Cyrus Audio interconnect, CA Pacific interconnects (x2), Black Rhodium powwrcorda (x4), RA Powerkords (Reference, Classic), RA Ultrapurifier 8way block, RA 4way yello block.
I use Van Damme cable with my PMC Twenty 21s, and it hits the spot. See no reason to spend a penny more. I'm using this stuff:
Use the same cable myself (4mm), good cable and reasonable price.
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Thanks for the info. I have just been looking at the cable, and you are right I think the 2.5 mm is £3.50 and the higher gauge blue or black is 6mm and£7.00. Even terminated, it is well under the price of some cables.
Same thoughts as abacus...
There are many threads on speaker cable on the site so just do a quick search.
The most important is to compare cables yourself using a blind test, (You do not know which cable is in use or even if it was changed from the previous test) as that is the only way to make a decision.
Everybody that tests this way you will find cannot tell any difference from the quality cable as used in film and production studios (2.5mm sq. OFC copper) and any of the more expensive (And so called special) cables. (Thus you can save yourself a considerable amount of money)
Remember only you can decide if there is any difference, just make sure (Without exception) that you test using a proper blind test.
Hope this helps
Don't waste money ?
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Welcome to the crazy world of cabling debates!
I for one am an advocate for spending sensible (ie relative to the equipment) money on cables and if you are looking at Chord products, check out Rumour or Odessey ( same as rumour with a tad more bass). There is also a lot of positive feedback on the TQ Black cables although I have not tried them myself.
I don't see the point of having great gear only to use cheap cables?! As an example, I recently swapped out the cheap Gale branded copper cables on my Dad's modest Cambridge Audio/Tannoy set up with some QED Silver Anniversary cable and there was a real improvement, especially with mid range and higher frequencies. Even my Dad commented on the improvements!
Synology 212j, Sonos Connect, Leema Elements Dac, Pro-Ject Debut, Arcam A38, Kef R100, Chord cables
So what influences the sound coming thru the cable,amp or speaker...do certain cables work better with certain kit(ie:whats best for mine )EDIT:just read a thread fom 2010,and this answered my question,but i can tell you,it got very ugly in there
Also what is recomended for teriminating?.....i have mine bear wired into amp's/speakers.
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hi david,the best advice that i can give you is trust your own ears,and when you try out new cables ,give them some time to run in,dont be quick to juge a cable in five minutes,when i bought my speaker cable it sounded rubbish ,but the dealer that sold me the cable would take time to burn in .in the end it took about 3 weeks of playing music to really hear what they were capable of .most of all enjoy the music .good luck .cheers david
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I would use banana plugs, better connection and no chance of stray wires shorting across the amp.
Thanks once again to all for your help and advice. I have just purchased some Van Damme 2.5 mm, shotgun OFC 5 m lengths, that's the minimum you can purchase from them, online at least. The only problem being the connections which do not fit my speakers, and Van Damme do not do the connection I need. That aside I have stopped bi wiring my speakers, and I am using the Rega cable into the LF terminals, and there is a marked difference. I have just finished listening to Mark Knopfler Sultans of swing The very best of. The space between instruments is noticeable. I am listening to some older recordings which sound very good too. As soon as I get the Van Damme run in I will post my views. I would still like to try the Telurim black though.
I would still like to try the Telurim black though.
I think you are right to remain inquisitive......though allow yourself time to get to grips with your current S/Cs. Make sure you borrow the TQ Black and keep them long enough to do a proper assessment.
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