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RE: Proof that expensive HDMI cables make no difference?

Interesting read, thanks.

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RE: Proof that expensive HDMI cables make no difference?

As usual, it's all about the picture....HDMI carry sound as well!

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Thanks for the link SouthaK, it's an interesting read. There's already loads of proof that digital cables make no difference so surely this is just another nail in the coffin of expensive digital cables.

I like the line "James Randi has even extended his $1 million prize for anyone that can prove paranormal activity to include anyone that can prove that expensive HDMI cables make a difference."

Any takers for $1,000,000?

No? I thought not.

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RE: Proof that expensive HDMI cables make no difference?

CnoEvil wrote:

As usual, it's all about the picture....HDMI carry sound as well!

But I thought that expensive HDMI cables are supposed to be able to make blacks darker, colours more viberant and skin tones look more natural etc?

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I am happy with the two 1m QED HDMI cables that cost £70 each (when new) and I got for £3.55 each last year due to a pricing packaging error by Tesco and/or QED Smile

(I only bought them for their length - to replace 2m cables - and their price).

So I am immune to any pro or anti expensive HDMI arguments.

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RE: Proof that expensive HDMI cables make no difference?

steve_1979 wrote:

CnoEvil wrote:

As usual, it's all about the picture....HDMI carry sound as well!

But I thought that expensive HDMI cables can make blacks darker, colours more viberant and skin tones look more natural etc?

My point is that if you are testing something, there is no point in concentrating on half of what it does. It would be like testing a car for the room it has inside and forgetting about everything else.

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I still would probably choose Atlas Hyper over some generic job. but only because for the look of it (I use Hyper range throughout do for the sake of aesthetic consistency I'd go for that one). I wouldn't kid myself into thinking that it makes something better/ different than any other 1,5m HDMI cable.

now, we can argue if aesthetic considerations are worth 70GBP premium over generic cable. but that a question no blind ABX tests nor HD5 hash captures will never answer...

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My point is that if you are testing something, there is no point in concentrating on half of what it does. It would be like testing a car for the room it has inside and forgetting about everything else.

Fair point. Smile

But HDMI cables don't make any audible difference to the sound either.

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That's a nice pot of gold for

That's a nice pot of gold for someone  Smile

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Fair point. Smile

But HDMI cables don't make any audible difference to the sound either.


That's a very categorical statement.... Would you bet your life on it Wink

(I wouldn't bet my life either way, as the jury is still out...but I suspect there is more difference to the sound than the picture).

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RE: Proof that expensive HDMI cables make no difference?

I thought it was very interesting too, especially the bit about people perceiving small differences when even no changes have been made. It's an effect that audio dealers have been exploiting for years - they sit there tapping their feet and fingers and in that situation it is the hardest thing in the world to say "I don't hear any difference" and even harder NOT to hear a differnce even if there isn't one...you almost make yourself hear a difference!  ohhh sure

 

 

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RE: Proof that expensive HDMI cables make no difference?

CnoEvil wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:

Fair point. Smile

But HDMI cables don't make any audible difference to the sound either.

That's a very categorical statement.... Would you bet your life on it Wink (I wouldn't bet my life either way, as the jury is still out...but I suspect there is more difference to the sound than the picture).
What jury would that be, Cno  Tongue

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RE: Proof that expensive HDMI cables make no difference?

CnoEvil wrote:
That's a very categorical statement....

It's a statement that has been scientifically proven to be true.

If a HDMI cable can make a difference to the sound why hasn't anyone claimed the $1,000,000 prize from James Randi yet?

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ooh.. wrote:

What jury would that be, Cno  Tongue

Don't start! Tongue Tongue

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