One of the more depressing conclusions that could be drawn from this tale is that one of the most talented hifi engineers around has realised that there is more money to be made in bulls--- cabling than there is by doing proper engineering work.
This tale isn't finished yet, as I haven't talked about the sound....and that, after all, is all that matters.
IMO It is exceedingly unlikely that someone who has designed some of the most repected products in British hifi would tarnish his well earned reputation on snake oil.
"Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again." André Gide
Some people are willing to do anything for money.
A credible engineer using his reputation to make a quick buck selling audiophile cables isn't beyond the realms of possibility.
PC > AVI Neutron Five 2.1
Sony NWZ-A847 64GB Walkman > Westone UM3x
I've already got a tenner on which way that's heading, but I got very short odds.
Thing is, he won't tarnish his reputation while reasonable, intelligent, experienced and big-spending individuals such as yourself continue to laud the results.
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C'mon Cno, this is like waiting for the other boot to fall.
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What did you hear?
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I'm at a wedding today and will try to finish off my "tall tale", complete with pictures, over the next day or two....not that anything I say will be given any credibility, given that I'm a gullible plutocrat!
You can be sure that I will try to get the man himself to defend his position...but that may be a bit if a long shot.
It would be good if anyone else who was at one of the two evenings would see this, and be brave enough to give comment.
You credit me with more power than I actually have.
On your own, of course, but as a group that's exactly how it works.
How did he reach the conclusion that the differences he heard could not be accounted for by room acoustics?
I suppose his background as a mechanical engineer
Which he then forgot all about and joined the Moonies. by the sound of it.
I expect that he knows exactly how silly his products are from an engineering point of view. I also expect he's happy to pocket the easy money that's earned by selling fancy looking mains cables for £550 a pop.
I was going to say something similar, but in a milder manner.
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That gives me an idea! I should develop a diet regimen / anti-wrinkle cream / lose-weight-without-exercise machine, use some sophisticated medical words (to impress people), endorse them as a doctor, & market them!
A simple blind ABX test of this chaps cables is all that's needed to determine whether they make any difference. I doubt suggesting as much at that meeting would've went down too well though. I'd have eat the free grub first
I feel a bit guilty saying anything bad when Cno is such a nice and friendly guy. Unfortunately subtlety has never been one of my strong points. I just can't resist calling a spade a spade in a direct and blunt manner.
Are there any scientific tests and results to back up his claims?
This was a genuine question btw Cno.
p.s. I'm looking forward to the photos and write up.
I agree. It's difficult to confront Cno as he's a nice person. It is useful to have his posts, as it makes me sit back & think for a moment (although I'm yet to agree with his views regarding accessories).
Good idea - the only problem is you are regulated by professional standards and if you endorsed something - as a doctor - that was bollo--- then you would face some sort of sanction. And I imagine the burden of proof would be on you. Whereas an acoustic engineer can say / do what they like...
I knew I was in the wrong profession!!
You could probably release some audio cables and endorse those as a doctor
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