I'd imagine many are astounded at that response
Not really. I'm not the one who is throwing the toys out the pram and flouncing off.
Unsurprisingly, I wasn't including yourself in the "many"...
Really Prof ? Are you sure ? Are you really really sure ? I'm so disappointed............
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Curious how you can't refute (or deny) the arguments - on second thoughts, it isn't.
I don't need to Lemon - I have already done so. You have come to the party far to late I'm afraid. As I say, do some research, come back and try again.
Who would you rather throw in gaol - some poor sod who's trying to get by in what may be their only chance at life by scrounging the odd penny or someone who's defrauding us of more per week than you or I will earn in our lives?
You need to sort out your priorities, mate!
Quite so Professor - hard to reconcile a claim that a person is open to debate and discussion, with a stated position by the same person that they have never, not once, in all their life, ever been presented with a single fact or piece of information that led them to question their opinion.
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hard to reconcile a claim that a person is open to debate and discussion, with a stated position by the same person that they have never, not once, in all their life, ever been presented with a single fact or piece of information that led them to question their opinion.
An interesting inference from this is that any such individual must always have held the same views. So whatever age cloverleaf is now, he holds the same views as when he was, say, 15. Or, indeed, 5. This obviously rings true with his childlike opinions and reasoning, but is really rather pathetic.
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Certainly seems to preclude any concept of "learning" or personal development, and suggests everything he'll ever know in life is merely everything he knows now - nothing more, nothing less.
still, guess it avoids the need for any of the tricky "thinking" stuff.
Speak for yourself. "Mate".
Hilarious from someone who's Avatar was never more appropriate
Keep the insults coming chaps, you might give yourself some time to come up with some facts in the meantime.
Explain how I'm wrong.
Exactly. I refer you to my previous post regarding your avatar.
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Do you plan to do anything about cloverleaf? If I'm the only one for whom he's making this an unpleasant place, let me know and I'll be off. If others feel the same way, then surely you should be doing something?
FWIW I don't see that strong moderation on this sort of issue can be criticised in the same way that stepping into cable debates was.
I have merely removed from public view your repeated use of deeply offensive language. I have now referred this thread, and the other in which you have decided to start using similar language, also now unpublished, to the moderation team.
In the light of your recent outbursts, IW very little.
You may have guessed I'm not cloverleaf's biggest fan, but the issue is, whilst he / she strays very close to (and does sometimes just step over) the boundries, he / she is only expressing an opinion and seems to have a talent for goading normally quite rational posters into fits of rage / annoyance enough for them to then well and truly break the rules. The satisfaction is then theirs to see this, and they'll carry on, hopefully dragging more and more people down. Whilst this may not seem right, at the moment, the WHF policy of moderation seems to be one of not to just ban people because others don't like them and I'd not like to see that personally as it stinks of "cliqueness" and any such view, whether justified or not, may put new people off from attempting to join in.
My advice would be if you feel like doing that - don't. Close the laptop / switch off the monitor, put some music on, have a nice glass of something and relax and remember it really isn't important what one person does or does not say on a hi-fi forum. When you see future posts, ignore them. Don't even read them. Eventually, if enough people do this, the satisfaction he / she clearly gains from their trolling will dry up, and they'll be off somewhere else to get their fix.
Much better bet than losing valuable moments of your life on something which, to be frank, can really be better spent.
Thread locked while everyone cools off. Personal insults are contrary to House Rules. While I don't think it's our job to stifle debate, if people can't behave like adults then we have no choice but to intervene. I'd suggest following professorhat's advice.
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