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If the Philpotts of this world of this world  are your issue then start a new post.

\Why would you bring them into this thread or are all people on welfare to be viewed with the same suspicions until we never hear of them?

 

 

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rjb70stoke wrote:

Its a sad day when members on any forum resort to profanity to make their point, and the site has lost a couple of respected contributers.

While I DONT want to get into the issues of the other thread, surely the events of the last few days in Nottingham prove that debate is needed with regard to the welfare state. I have no problem supporting the unfortunate people who are genuinely out of work, and the poor souls who for whatever reason cannot work, (I have an uncle with quite severe mental issues, who hasnt been able to work for over 30 years), BUT the idea of keeping the Philpotts of this world in their luxurious lifestyle pretty much makes my blood boil.  

 

I would hardly call 11 children in a 3 bedroom house a luxurious lifestyle. 

 

Anyway, I saw a black man in court the other day, we need to have a debate about race in this country. 

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BenLaw wrote:

 

I would hardly call 11 children in a 3 bedroom house a luxurious lifestyle. 

 

Anyway, I saw a black man in court the other day, we need to have a debate about race in this country. 

 

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That was also the only side that provided any solid facts (that benefit fraud accounts for less than 0.5% of the total welfare budget), rather than throwing around highly emotive comments based on newspaper headlines. The side doing that also never attempted to counter any of the arguments put forward by the other side but you could lay that at both sides really.

I don't recall anyone mentioning benefit fraud. I think the subject was the overly generous nature of the welfare system overall, for those claiming legally.

As for "countering arguments" put forward by "the other side", I also don't recall anyone from that side putting up any cogent arguments; I believe the standard  of comment never rose above the usual "evil Dail Mail" rants so beloved of the Guardianistas when they have no argument to put forward.

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BenLaw wrote:

rjb70stoke wrote:

Its a sad day when members on any forum resort to profanity to make their point, and the site has lost a couple of respected contributers.

While I DONT want to get into the issues of the other thread, surely the events of the last few days in Nottingham prove that debate is needed with regard to the welfare state. I have no problem supporting the unfortunate people who are genuinely out of work, and the poor souls who for whatever reason cannot work, (I have an uncle with quite severe mental issues, who hasnt been able to work for over 30 years), BUT the idea of keeping the Philpotts of this world in their luxurious lifestyle pretty much makes my blood boil.  

 

I would hardly call 11 children in a 3 bedroom house a luxurious lifestyle. 

 

Anyway, I saw a black man in court the other day, we need to have a debate about race in this country. 

Yup!

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BenLaw wrote:

 we need to have a debate about race in this country. 

 

It's Grand National day, so I suggest we start with that race excellent!

 

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jjbomber wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

 we need to have a debate about race in this country.

 

It's Grand National day, so I suggest we start with that race excellent!

 

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BenLaw wrote:

I would hardly call 11 children in a 3 bedroom house a luxurious lifestyle. 

 

Anyway, I saw a black man in court the other day, we need to have a debate about race in this country. 

No, luxurious would be the wrong description but having lots of kids to fund your lifestyle is wrong, he used them (kids) as cash cows. I get sick of hearing what a great father he was to them too, no he wasn't, if he went and worked to support his family that might have been a start. Not only has the state supported this utter waste of space for most of his life it now has to pay for him to be in jail for 17 years too \0/

I don't see how any tax paying citizen could condone that really.

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cloverleaf146 wrote:
As for "countering arguments" put forward by "the other side", I also don't recall anyone from that side putting up any cogent arguments; I believe the standard  of comment never rose above the usual "evil Dail Mail" rants so beloved of the Guardianistas when they have no argument to put forward.

Maybe your time would be better spent getting help with your reading and attention problems.

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if I thought mine was a minority viewpoint, I'd probably leave too.

 

Do you mean that you would exclude yourself from ever making a contribution on the whole forum because other people didn't agree with you on one thing in the miriad of things we [try to] discuss on WHF?

If yes, then I feel immensely sorry for you.  Where exactly is Utopia?

Since you're clearly not stupid I can only think that you're deliberately misunderstanding my point which was that I expect disagreement to be polite. You have quite an abrasive style which, I think, occasionally strays into rudeness - if this deters people from debating with you what do you gain? I'm happy to have my views challenged but without the implication that I'm stupid to hold them.

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What time do they kick off?

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Yet again, can we please refrain from personal insults, or this thread will end up being locked.

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Andrew Everard wrote:
Yet again, can we please refrain from personal insults

 

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What time do they kick off?

That's the football you're thinking of. They're easily distinguishable - one is a load of dumb animals who cost millions running around in Liverpool, the other is - actually, hang on...

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John Duncan wrote:

Alec wrote:

What time do they kick off?

That's the football you're thinking of. They're easily distinguishable - one is a load of dumb animals who cost millions running around in Liverpool, the other is - actually, hang on...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI

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