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Playing devils advocate here, not sure why this forum is so vehemently against LCD?  They really arn't that bad...  Don't get me wrong, I like plasmas, but they are not without fault.  Low to mid range plasmas are going to struggle with brightly lit rooms, the Samsung 51F5500 specifically as it has no anti reflective filtering whatso ever, it's just glass.  Normal folk don't sit in a darkend cinema room critiquing their pictures, they watch deal or no deal with the curtains open!  Secondly, you mentioned gaming is important.  Do check the input lag of any tv you want to buy as many plasmas are poorer than LCD for input lag.

Just trying to balance a non-sensical statement myself Paul. Smile

By the way, plasmas historically have been better suited for gaming due to lower input lags and inherently better refresh rates woot the need for any artificial processing. Only in the past year or so, have LCDs started coming out with better input lag than plasmas.

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Plasmas are being discontinued left, right and centre. If you want future-proofing, avoid.

I think your argument is based on a non sequitur. In what way is plasma any more or less future proof than other TV technologies?

 

Well spoken, Plasma still kicks @rse when it comes to movement and dynamic contrast.

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Thought I'd drop my two pence worth in here.

for me as a gamer my first plasma is fine g20, my second plasma gt50 has been a nightmare. Image retention is a real problem, based on this I would seriously consider a LCD/led set over a plasma if you are a gamer. If you don't game that much then plasma probably is the way to go. You do have to be careful with input lag on the LCD/led sets though, some are seriously high. Each one has its problems, you need to find one you can live with an image retention is a real pain for me.

it depends how much you game

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CNET have an input lag test.  These are US models, so the model numbers may not tie up with uk models.  Looks like Sony make the fastest at the mo Smile

 

http://m.cnet.com/news/best-low-lag-hdtvs-for-serious-gamers/57589240?ds=1

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Hdtv test have one for uk models

 

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/input-lag

yes, Sony looks very good for input lag, but it has problems with poor viewing angles, so it might depend on viewing circumstances

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I think from whats been said here you should be going for plasma.but i  dont know what quality youre going to get at a large screen size for £850 tho.

It wouldnt really matter if you wanted cheap and cheerful but if you want to watch blu ray and want your new playstation 4 to look its best ,hang on a few months and save up a bit more im not saying bigger is better but buying 37-42inch tv for movies,games and football etc dosent do them justice.

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Cheers guys, just been to PC

Cheers guys, just been to PC world to have a look and to my eye the Sonys and Panasonics seemed to be the best. They didn't have many plasmas in the store it was mainly led/lcd. There is too many options. I do play my playstation a lot and like to watch football and horse racing also, as well as a lot of films etc. so I guess I'm looking for a good all rounder. Cheers for all your input. I have decided I want a 46,47 or 50 inch. Argh too many options.

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Cheers for all your input. I have decided I want a 46,47 or 50 inch. Argh too many options.

However, we should all have asked this question much earlier in this thread: how big is your room (measurements, please) and how far will you be sitting from the new television, whatever it is?

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Son_of_SJ wrote:

Showerstud wrote:
Cheers for all your input. I have decided I want a 46,47 or 50 inch. Argh too many options.

However, we should all have asked this question much earlier in this thread: how big is your room (measurements, please) and how far will you be sitting from the new television, whatever it is?

Not important imo just get the biggest tv you can afford even if you only sit 6 or 7 feet away, bigger is better.

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Okay, so I will be sat about

Okay, so I will be sat about 1.8-2m away. How about I put it this way, if I gave you 850-900 pounds to buy a tv, what would you go and buy?

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Do you have to buy now?  If you can walk in to a John Lewis on 27th December you will get a steal with a five year warranty.

 

for a sub 2 meter viewing distance, I would be looking at a 46" ish.  50" may be a push, I sit 2.5m away from a 51" and if I lean forward I can see all the swirly plasma noise from the cells cycling.

 

you could look at Panasonic 42GT60, Sony 46" HX8, Samsung 46F6740

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Paul. wrote:

Do you have to buy now?  If you can walk in to a John Lewis on 27th December you will get a steal with a five year warranty.

+1 from me. This close to Christmas and the sales I'd wait, and then do a price match also. If you can wait that long of course

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I will wait until the 27th,

I will wait until the 27th, cheers guys.

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rocketrazor wrote:

Thought I'd drop my two pence worth in here.

for me as a gamer my first plasma is fine g20, my second plasma gt50 has been a nightmare. Image retention is a real problem, based on this I would seriously consider a LCD/led set over a plasma if you are a gamer. If you don't game that much then plasma probably is the way to go. You do have to be careful with input lag on the LCD/led sets though, some are seriously high. Each one has its problems, you need to find one you can live with an image retention is a real pain for me.

it depends how much you game

That's exactly what I was going to say!

I too have had nothing but a nightmare when gaming on a Panasonic plasma, I went through 3 G20 and 4 GT30 plasmas before I just gave up. For movies and TV I would recommend one in a heartbeat as I remain a fan but the last two times I have changed my telly I have auditioned and then discounted both the GT50 and VT65 Panasonic plasmas simply because of all the hurrendous image retention issues. On both my plasmas and across all the replacements the issue remained and in one instance burnt an image on the screen of my G20 and even when the Pixel Orbiter feature was introduced on the GT30 range and left on all the time I still got lots of image retention.

I'm convinced to this day that gaming caused the eventual demise of my GT30 which suffered a strange clouding effect across 3 patches of the screen and if gaming is a concern I would seriously think about getting an LED/LCD. Look out for input lag levels as stated and weigh up your usage, if you will only use the TV for gaming occasionally then consider a plasma but if you are going to game quite a bit I would think again.

And for further balance LED/LCD TVs have got a lot better over the last few years and I have been delighted with my last two (Sony 46HX853 and now my Samsung 55F8000) and both have left me very happy in both performance terms and lack of faults which plagued every plasma I owned, balance out all the comments and decide what's best for you.

As much as I love plasma I just wouldn't go back now. Audition before you buy too so get out there and get a list together of potential purchases.

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For what its worth, comparison in PC world is a lottery. They simply plug em in. I think it is one device which is better selected by recommendation & review. Good luck anyway

Yamaha V2065. MS Mezzo 5.1 Panasonic 42. Sony BD. Garrard 86SB. WD Live TV. SkyHD.

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