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Please help me! Marantz + MO BX2's

Smile Hello everybody,

I am very close to purchasing the Marantz MCR610 and the Monitor Audio BX2 speakers but would like some advice....

Will the Marantz be powerful enough to make the speakers sound as good as they should? Because the speakers are 8ohms and have a max RMS of 100W but the marantz system max RMS is 60W at 6ohms, so it will be a bit less..... Will this machine still be fine? I have saved up a long time and I am going to be spending just under £700 so I want the sound to be good! The reason I am looking at the marantz is because I want Airplay built into it and it seems the Marantz is the machine with airplay with the highest power output..... All that is important to me really is a CD player, airplay and an fm radio.

Finally does anyine have any comment on how the BX2's sound? I would also like some feedback on people with these speakers with the Marantz MCR603 as this has nearly the same specs, just its discontinued now :(. Also, would you guys recommend having the BX2's on the Soundstyle z2's? 

 

Thank you very much  in advance! Smile 

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Your post suggests you want a system to go very loud.

If this is the case, then get a very powerful amplifier (moreso if you also have a large room).

Not only will the Marantz be unsuitable for sustained high volume levels, but almost any other 50 - 60 wpc amplifier (within your £700 amp/speaker budget)  be unsuitable too.    And the BX2s will definitely not be the right speakers.

If you are locating this system in a small to medium sized room and want good quality sound at reasonable volume levels (not party levels) then you'll be ok with the Marantz.

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I agree with Chebby about the volume levels.  If it is high levels you are looking for, look elsewhere.

That issue aside, I don't think the BX2s are the best partner for the Marantz (based on knowing what the MCR603 sounds like and having owned BX2s with Marantz 6003 seperates).  The BX2s are very competent speakers but they can be a bit clinical and technical sounding and I think they really need something warmer than the Marantz system like a NAD C326BEE or similar to sound their best.

If the system is for normal listening levels I would suggest trying the Marantz system with Wharfedale Diamond 121s, Dali Zensor 3s, and Q Acoustics 2020i all of which will complement the system very well.

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RE: Please help me! Marantz + MO BX2's

Agree with Matthew Piano.  Marantz CD's are very detailed and present all of the recording, good & bad. I thought my Cambridge CD erred toward a touch of brightness on certain recordings, but the Marantz through the same speakers was more so. The MA's are also very detailed, so would amplify (bad word choice I know) this quality to the extent that it could lead to considerable fatigue.

But with the right speakers, it could sound terrific (at reasonable volumes).  One very happy customer of the Marantz 610 married it to Q Acoustics Concept 20's. their less expensive siblings share the same drivers, just in less inert high-tech cabinets, so ought to have a similar sound balance.

i do hope that you won't be purchasing on the basis of our suggestions though. By all means demo the suggestions, but taste in sound varies enough that you should only part with the dosh when your ears are happy following a decent demo of your favourite music.  At some point one of the contributors would've said this, so might aswell get it done & dusted now.

 

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Given your budget the above suggestions are all pretty sound, the 610 is pretty much a 'gimme' at the price and as an 'all inclusive' option it has little competition.

Your only real choice is speakers, whether to go for something quite refined like the Q Acoustics or something that has a more generous sound such as the MAs or the Wharfedales. Your money, so therefor your choice.

The only real limitations with this setup is, as pointed out above, output capability. If you want something that will go louder, produce bass with real power and punch then I am happy to recommend something that will do just that, though it will be rather different and not meet with universal approval from many on this forum.

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davedotco wrote:

If you want something that will go louder, produce bass with real power and punch then I am happy to recommend something that will do just that, though it will be rather different and not meet with universal approval from many on this forum.

Depends on whether it fit's the OP's £700 budget (with all the functionaility and connectivity he wants) and - assuming the OP is concerned about space - is as compact and clutter free.

Assuming you are going to recommend active speakers,  then it's worth bearing in mind whether they are a 'compact' solution after all the required sources are added (along with some kind of pre-amp or equivalent).

If someone is happy to just use an ATV and a DAC/pre (DAC with volume control) then fine. But the Marantz has CD, FM / DAB / Internet tuner,  DAC, amp, streaming, wireless, AirPlay and kitchen sink all in one box requiring only one mains lead and no interconnects.

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My suggestion for an alternative would be a B&W A7  Smile

True active configuration / topology,  compact, no seperate speakers, fits into £700 (just), has built-in AirPlay, optical and USB digital connections for computer and  TV/Blu-ray system etc. (Or PS3)

I have heard it play cleanly in a medium sized space up to 'room filling' levels (not head-banging levels mind you) very impressively.

 

 

 

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chebby wrote:

davedotco wrote:

If you want something that will go louder, produce bass with real power and punch then I am happy to recommend something that will do just that, though it will be rather different and not meet with universal approval from many on this forum.

Depends on whether it fit's the OP's £700 budget (with all the functionaility and connectivity he wants) and - assuming the OP is concerned - is as compact and clutter free.

Assuming you are going to recommend active speakers,  then it's worth bearing in mind whether they are a 'compact' solution after all the required sources are added (along with some kind of pre-amp or equivalent).

If someone is happy to just use an ATV and a DAC/pre (DAC with volume control) then fine. But the Marantz has CD, FM/DAB/Internet tuner DAC, amp, streaming, wireless, AirPlay and kitchen sink all in one box requiring only one mains lead and no interconnects.

Exactly, which is why I asked.

A pair of Presonus E8 speakers (£400), an Aune X1 dac/preamp (£135), an inexpensive CD player/transport and an AEX would get pretty close to the OP's core requirements, though he would have to settle for internet radio from his iThing if he is not going to go over budget in the first instance.

However this would be a somewhat complex, bitty system that would put off many users which is why I did not come out and recommend such a setup without setting the context first.

 

BTW. You can see why I was so excited when I mistakenly thought that the 610 was going to have pre-outs, lots of fun to be had there.

 

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RE: Please help me! Marantz + MO BX2's

Thank you very much all of you for your replies! Much appreciated. 

It's actually for my bedroom which is approx 4m x 3.5m. I I am not bothered about putting it really loud, I'm more interested in how good the clarity of the speakers  is and if the bass will not be overpowering but enough to hear it clearly. It is iimportant for the sound to be great at low volumes.

I shall be going to listen to them hopefully in the next few days or weeks.... But in the meantime, I wanted some advice.

just to ask a bit more, and give you guys some more info.

i am not bothered about the internet radio, dab radio etc.. I'm just bothered about it having a CD player, FM radio and airplay. If you guys can think of anything that  fits those requirements, that will be appreciated.

 

The a7 dock looks good but I as I said, i want a CD player...

thanks once again 

 

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Thanks for the advice, i will look at the concept 20's Smile

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I think the 2020i's are good, but I can stretch to better I think. The zensor 3's look good, and the 121's....

With the marantz mcr610, which do you think would be better... The 3's,121's or bx2's?

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domswhathifi wrote:

Thank you very much all of you for your replies! Much appreciated. 

It's actually for my bedroom which is approx 4m x 3.5m. I I am not bothered about putting it really loud, I'm more interested in how good the clarity of the speakers  is and if the bass will not be overpowering but enough to hear it clearly. It is iimportant for the sound to be great at low volumes.

I shall be going to listen to them hopefully in the next few days or weeks.... But in the meantime, I wanted some advice.

just to ask a bit more, and give you guys some more info.

i am not bothered about the internet radio, dab radio etc.. I'm just bothered about it having a CD player, FM radio and airplay. If you guys can think of anything that  fits those requirements, that will be appreciated.

 

The a7 dock looks good but I as I said, i want a CD player...

thanks once again 

 

Definitely the 610 then. Difficult to touch for the money.

Do your best to hear a few speakers yourself but do not be tempted to over complicate, sometimes 'better' speakers come at a price such as being harder to drive.

I would choose between the smaller Dali models and those by Q Acoustics, but thats me, you might hear something that works better for you so go with that.

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RE: Please help me! Marantz + MO BX2's

Okay, thank you very much! I will probably end up buying the MCR610 as it is all in one, so don't need anymore cables! I will do what you have said, I will try out a few different speakers, thanks! Hopefully I will be happy with my purchase when I eventually get it! 

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RE: Please help me! Marantz + MO BX2's

I was following this conversation since i also want to buy the 610 but i am not decided about the speakers. Ended up with the dilemma: dali zensor3 or MA BX2?

did you make your choice at the end? any comments?

Thanks

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luch1967 wrote:

I was following this conversation since i also want to buy the 610 but i am not decided about the speakers. Ended up with the dilemma: dali zensor3 or MA BX2?

did you make your choice at the end? any comments?

Thanks

I think the best all round speakers might well be the the the Zenzor 3 or the 2020i. I do not like the BX series at all though no doubt some people will.

As I said above, the capabilities of the Marantz are excellent but within defined limits, keep the speakers relatively simple and (for me) the levels sensible and you will do fine.

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Q Acoustics are a good match for the Marantz 610s. I've got the 2010is on the 610s in the bedrooms and the Concept 20s on the living room 610. You really do get a lot for your money with this combo. Even the 2010is sound superb on the end of the Marantzs.

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