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I will add this to my short list of amplifiers to listen to when I upgrade along with the Perreaux Audiant 80i and ATC SIA 2-150

Haven't ATC discontinued the SIA 2-150 ?

It certainly looks like it.

I've always thought it made little sense having a Pre/Power and Integrated at a very similar price.....it's a shame they didn't keep the SIA2-150 and increase the quality of CA2 / P1.

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12Designs wrote:

I will add this to my short list of amplifiers to listen to when I upgrade along with the Perreaux Audiant 80i and ATC SIA 2-150

Haven't ATC discontinued the SIA 2-150 ?

It certainly looks like it.

I always thought it made little sense having a Pre/Power and Integrated at a very similar price.....it's a shame they didn't keep the SIA2-150 and increase the quality of CA2 / P1.

As far as I am aware the SIA2-150 MK2 has not been discontinued. The SIA2-150 MK2 is in the Power Amplifier section on ATC's website

http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/power-amplifiers/s1a2-150/

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As far as I am aware the SIA2-150 MK2 has not been discontinued. The SIA2-150 MK2 is in the Power Amplifier section on ATC's website

http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/power-amplifiers/s1a2-150/

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You are quite right.

I had a cursory look on their website and didn't think to look under Power Amplifiers.  :oops:

(I still think they should upgrade the Pre / Power, to lift it to another level).

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As far as I am aware the SIA2-150 MK2 has not been discontinued. The SIA2-150 MK2 is in the Power Amplifier section on ATC's website

http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/power-amplifiers/s1a2-150/

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They should have an integrated amplifier section then if they want folk to find it.

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No putting the sound through tone controls degrades the quality that why so many of the more expensive amps do not have them.

Yep. Gives them less flexibility, preserves (some) manufacturer's bogus claims to high-end status ("look Ma, no tone controls, I must be good") and means they can charge more for using less components.

On the flip side, there have been some really sucky tone controls and lots of people who abuse them whether they are sucky or not.  Classically the ill-named and, usually, ill-engineered 'loudness' function is the most abused one because it is only supposed to be applied at very low volumes and should be progressive so that it becomes less pronounced (and finally cuts out) as the volume is turned up.

I am hoping that intelligent use of DSP modes will become more prevalent amongst more new kit. (With customisable options for differently furnished rooms and different kinds of speakers maybe.)

Even great Michelin starred restaurants allow their customers the option to use salt to adjust the seasoning to their taste.  Fortnums, Claridges and the Savoy provide sugar with their afternoon teas.

How would you like a television from a company who factory calibrate all their screens to a 'reference' standard and provide no user adjustments at all?

yup! agreed:-) there should be some essential reading - the articles mentioned here and in some recent posts - before people spend money on hi fi... 

 

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Thanks Rick

I will add this to my short list of amplifiers to listen to when I upgrade along with the Perreaux Audiant 80i and ATC SIA 2-150

Hi 12Designs

Your welcome  Smile

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That Yamaha looks nice but also quite huge to accommodate.

 

New stuff ?  What about that Creek 50D then.

Reading about it now over almost a year and very much like to see (& hear) what they come up with en how it compares to the Audiolab stuff.

It has the same developer and comes with the ESS Sabre chip-set.

From the looks of the new 50A I might like it (in black), but all depends on functionality and a possible (minor) upgrade in sound.

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In the second week of May there's the HighEnd Show in Munchen, it will reveal a lot of new 2013 stuff. :grin:

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In the second week of May there's the HighEnd Show in Munchen, it will reveal a lot of new 2013 stuff. :grin:

Hi WX

Yes, it will be interesting to see what new products are revealed at the Munich show Smile

Btw, production of Rega's new Aria MM/MC Phono stage begins this week.

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In the second week of May there's the HighEnd Show in Munchen, it will reveal a lot of new 2013 stuff. :grin:

Hi WX

Yes, it will be interesting to see what new products are revealed at the Munich show Smile

Btw, production of Rega's new Aria MM/MC Phono stage begins this week.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

The Aria sounded wonderful played through the new amp (name of which I can't remember) and some PMC speakers at the Audio World show in Manchester with an RP8 as source).

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MUSICRAFT wrote:

WX wrote:

In the second week of May there's the HighEnd Show in Munchen, it will reveal a lot of new 2013 stuff. :grin:

Hi WX

Yes, it will be interesting to see what new products are revealed at the Munich show Smile

Btw, production of Rega's new Aria MM/MC Phono stage begins this week.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

The Aria sounded wonderful played through the new amp (name of which I can't remember) and some PMC speakers at the Audio World show in Manchester with an RP8 as source).

Hi Matt

The Aria looks like its going be another big hit for Rega.

Btw, Rega's new amplifier is the Elicit-R which should be going into production within the next couple of months.

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chebby wrote:

BigH wrote:

No putting the sound through tone controls degrades the quality that why so many of the more expensive amps do not have them.

Yep. Gives them less flexibility, preserves (some) manufacturer's bogus claims to high-end status ("look Ma, no tone controls, I must be good") and means they can charge more for using less components.

On the flip side, there have been some really sucky tone controls and lots of people who abuse them whether they are sucky or not.  Classically the ill-named and, usually, ill-engineered 'loudness' function is the most abused one because it is only supposed to be applied at very low volumes and should be progressive so that it becomes less pronounced (and finally cuts out) as the volume is turned up.

I am hoping that intelligent use of DSP modes will become more prevalent amongst more new kit. (With customisable options for differently furnished rooms and different kinds of speakers maybe.)

Even great Michelin starred restaurants allow their customers the option to use salt to adjust the seasoning to their taste.  Fortnums, Claridges and the Savoy provide sugar with their afternoon teas.

How would you like a television from a company who factory calibrate all their screens to a 'reference' standard and provide no user adjustments at all?

 

 

Interesting... does anything like - let's call it - 'progressive loudness' exist in any amplifier available? That could be very useful feature.

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lpv wrote:

chebby wrote:

BigH wrote:

No putting the sound through tone controls degrades the quality that why so many of the more expensive amps do not have them.

Yep. Gives them less flexibility, preserves (some) manufacturer's bogus claims to high-end status ("look Ma, no tone controls, I must be good") and means they can charge more for using less components.

On the flip side, there have been some really sucky tone controls and lots of people who abuse them whether they are sucky or not.  Classically the ill-named and, usually, ill-engineered 'loudness' function is the most abused one because it is only supposed to be applied at very low volumes and should be progressive so that it becomes less pronounced (and finally cuts out) as the volume is turned up.

I am hoping that intelligent use of DSP modes will become more prevalent amongst more new kit. (With customisable options for differently furnished rooms and different kinds of speakers maybe.)

Even great Michelin starred restaurants allow their customers the option to use salt to adjust the seasoning to their taste.  Fortnums, Claridges and the Savoy provide sugar with their afternoon teas.

How would you like a television from a company who factory calibrate all their screens to a 'reference' standard and provide no user adjustments at all?

 

 

Interesting... does anything like - let's call it - 'progressive loudness' exist in any amplifier available? That could be very useful feature.

The only one I am aware of is the Naim UnitiQute's "Switchable bass contour control".

From the UnitiQute instructions...

"Engaging the Loudness option applies low frequency boost
to the speaker and preamplifier outputs that decreases as
the volume setting is increased. Through compensating for
the ear’s reduced low frequency sensitivity at low volume
levels, the Loudness function can make low volume
listening more satisfying.
Note: The loudness contour operates at volume settings
between 0 and 55.
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Thanks for that.. too bad Naim you mentioned doesn't have balance control.. very useful in difficult rooms..

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Thanks for that.. too bad Naim you mentioned doesn't have balance control.. very useful in difficult rooms..

Yes it does.

From UnitiQute Instructions...

"The Speakers setup menu enables a variety of speaker parameters to be adjusted.
The options are tabulated and described in the following sections:


"Parameter Options

Type: Large / Small / None


Loudness: Yes / No


Max. Volume: 0 to 100 (adjust using handset 6 or 5
keys)


Balance: -10 to + 10 (adjust using handset 6 or 5

The speaker Max. Volume and Balance parameters specify maximum allowed volume, and the channel balance respectively."

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