EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: Hands on with Panasonic's DMR BS850 Blu-ray recorder


On 20th June, Panasonic will release the first ever Blu-ray recorder in this country, offering the ability to record to HDD or archive on 50GB Blu-ray discs.
We're the first to get our hands on a full production sample, and we'll be publishing our verdict as the lead First Test in the July issue of What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision, on sale from June 3rd.
In the meantime, we thought we'd bring you our initial thoughts on the product.
The Panasonic DMR BS850 is a massive achievement. In a box no bigger than a standard Blu-ray player, it hides a Blu-ray recorder, a 250GB or 500GB hard drive and a Freesat HD receiver.
Panasonic is pitching it as the single box you need under your TV – and, as a concept, it's hard to argue with the logic. The 500GB and 250GB (DMR BS 750) models will cost £999 and £899 respectively, with a 250GB DVD version (DMR XS350) available for £699.
Twin Freesat tuners as standard
The DVD version will not record HD footage direct to DVD (just the HDD), though all models come with twin Freesat tuners and feature Viera Cast, allowing access to internet sites such as YouTube and photo-sharing site Picasa.
The hard disk drive on all models can store music and photo content too, and, as internet connection is offered as standard, it's certainly the most convincing stab at genuine home cinema convergence we've seen.
Both the DMR BS850 and BS750 are Profile 2.0 players and all models come with a Gracenote database of 350,000 albums and song titles, which can be updated online via the ethernet connection.
The EPG automatically tells you when a programme is in HD as well as standard-def. All HD shows will record to the hard disk, though some content may only be able to be copied once (and, rarely, never) to Blu-ray.
Recording of HDTV and 5.1 audio
Direct bitstream recording of HD programmes means everything is uncompressed. You'll also get 5.1 audio on the high quality 'DR' recording setting if the original broadcast supports it. The DMR BS850 has upgraded audio connections, which include an enhanced DAC and gold plated terminals.
There are five recording modes, with the DR mode offering 77 hours of content on a 500GB HDD and the lowest HL setting offers 240 hours on a 500GB HDD.
Of course, 25GB and 50GB Blu-ray discs are available too – a three pack of 25GB rewritable BD discs will cost £30. Amazingly, Panasonic also promises 100GB BD discs next year.
As well as ethernet, there's a USB socket for MP3 players and an SD card slot for photo, music and home movie content. Regular movie content such as DivX files can be played via the USB socket.
An optical socket is also featured and the two Blu-ray models can both decode Dolby True HD, DD Plus and DTS HD Master Audio. We have an exclusive UK review next issue, on sale 3rd June.
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Where did the pull those prices from?
Blu-ray player - £200
freesat HD PVR - £260
DMR XS350 costs £699!! There all vastly overpriced, if you knocked £300 of each model they would still not be good value.
I expect these prices will fall dramatically in the next 6 months.
Hmmm, not really an exclusive is it? Home Cinema Choice and a few other AV sites are well ahead of you on posting these details online.
Ah, but they haven't had their hands on a production-spec model....(and this is a follow-up to earlier pieces we've done both online and in-mag)
I'd like to see them bring out a model without DVD or Blu-ray support, just a regular twin tuner Freesat PVR to go head to head with the Humax. Any indications of whether they have one in the pipeline?
David Fuller
We first reported on the new Panasonic Blu-ray recorders on February 25th, with several follow-up articles since then.
As Clare says, we're the first UK magazine/website to get our hands on a full production model for review, not a pre-production prototype.
My thoughts exactly "smithdom". I already own a blu-ray player and I just want a big hard disc and twin tuners to timeshift films and series. No intention of writing to Blu-ray discs.
Hi Andy - sorry I missed this, as am quite interested. One thing that I was wondering (and your review may address this) is how it deals with a single satellite input?
(As I can't get a second feed from my dish easily), main concern is how this works in practice...
I know I won't be able to watch BBC1 and record BBC2, but can I watch and record BBC1 at the same time, or can I record BBC1 without having to switch the input cable from "watch tuner" to "recorder tuner"?
Cheers & thanks
Garry